Ancient American Skeleton Has European DNA Link

ABC News.com ^ | 11-27-2000

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If the Indians were not the first people here, does that mean that they are not true "native Americans" and that they stole the land from the indigenous people?

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GGG Ping.

This is an old article. It was originally posted on FR by Machman on 11-27-2000, It was 'locked-out' when JimRob changed the software.

Here's the original posting: Sinkhole Skeleton (European "Native Americans?")

[kinoxi]

a misleading headline, but interesting story

[randog]

“It’s a heretical argument, and some people, unfortunately, will use it to assert the cultural superiority of Europeans...."

No, I won't use it to assert the cultural superiority of my ancestors, but I will use it against anybody that uses the argument, "we were here first, therefore we're entitled to __________".

[Carry_Okie]

Somebody tell Fabian Nunez.

That the truth is more complex than anybody realized should be the baseline assumption.

[Flyer]

I guess we get to keep the Southwest now.

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"If the Indians were not the first people here, does that mean that they are not true "native Americans" and that they stole the land from the indigenous people?"

The DNA evidence suggests that there was at least some assimilation. The Obijawe(sp) Indians have the highest percent (25%) of this 'X-gene' today.

[xcamel]

We are definitely going to win this argument, and send the asiatic migration koolaide drinkers back to write new books. (Even the Algonkin claim european ancestry in their verbal history)

See also: the legend of the great horn

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"a misleading headline, but interesting story"

I agree but, if you follow the link, IMO, the original title was also.

[Para-Ord.45]

kenowick man ping

[Coyoteman]

"a misleading headline, but interesting story"

I agree but, if you follow the link, IMO, the original title was also.

Had me going too. I thought is was something new.

I have been following mtDNA closely of late, as we have some data coming in that may help unravel one of the other migrations.

[Publius6961]

“It’s a heretical argument, and some people, unfortunately, will use it to assert the cultural superiority of Europeans. But it’s a good theory that needs to be tested.”

It's hilarious how firmly PC has metasticised in ceertain occupations.
Stephen, nothing further is need to assert the cultural superiority of Europeans or anything else that is self-evident.

What is making many individuals wet their knickers is the possibility that Europeans may soon be sending Indians a huge bill for rent for the last 12,000 years of imperial occupation, without having the brains (or the good sense) to invent writing!

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“Frankly, it makes me nervous,” Smithsonian Institution anthropologist Stephen Loring said of the idea that the first Americans during the Ice Age were of European ancestry.

[359Henrie]

I'm opening a casino!

[From many - one.]

Both the mythology and the physiognomies of the Ojibwa seem to have European echoes.

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Here's a possible explanation I made on the below linked thread

Letter From Newfoundland: Homing In On The Red Paint People

If you take this Journey Of Mankind developed from the DNA studies of Stephen Oppenheimer, near the end, he shows a group of people entering the NE US at Meadowcroft 25,000 years ago and then becoming exiled (isolated) during the subsequent Last Glacial Maximum(LGM), 18-23,000 years ago.
Now, if you believe that the oldest (undisputed) Mongoloid skeleton ever found is only 10,000 years old as Oppenheimer claims, then the people who arrived at Meadowcroft were not 'Native Americans' as defined today.
My suspicion is that they were (more or less) of the Ainu (Kennewick Man) body style (racial group) and may be the source of the halpogroup-X (some call it the European 'gene') shared only by some of today's American Indians and Europeans.
Most of the oldest skeletons & skulls (not exclusively) being found in the Americas are of the long narrow type associated with Kennewick Man. And, Oppenheimer say that the Obajiwe(sp) Indians of the NE US have the highest precent (25) of the 'X-gene' than all other Indians in the US.

So, might these people of the NE US, the Red Paint People and others (reported to be tall and lighter skinned) be remnants of this group from 25,000 years ago?

[BenLurkin]

“Frankly, it makes me nervous,” Smithsonian Institution anthropologist Stephen Loring said of the idea that the first Americans during the Ice Age were of European ancestry.

“It’s a heretical argument, and some people, unfortunately, will use it to assert the cultural superiority of Europeans.

What is this guy saying?

How does someone like this get hired at the Smithsonian?

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Journey Of Mankind

[muawiyah]

Several early American populations invented writing.