[dirtboy]

Nope, sorry calling records to police requires only a record keeping subpoena,

GAWD, THAT IS STILL A SUBPEONA. There must be some probable cause. There was NONE involved here. WHY IS THAT SO DAMNED HARD FOR YOU FOLKS TO REALIZE? Why in the hell can you not see the danger of government being able to obtain private calling data without any kind of due process?

[ndt]

From the The communications act of 1934
"Civil action in United States district court; damages; attorney's fees and costs; nonexclusive nature of remedy...actual damages but not less than liquidated damages computed at the rate of $100 a day for each day of violation or $1,000, whichever is higher;"

Let's see $1000 X 10,000,000 thats 10 Billion dollars. Thats one heck of a class action lawsuit.

[KurtZ]

While it is admirable that some of you trust the government so much, just remember that if Bush can do it, so can Socialist/Commie Democrats in the future.

If you let the government pull your finger, they're gonna take the whole hand.

[Lord_Baltar]

Don't worry dirt, there are plenty here who are concerned by this.

If this had been Bill & Hill doing Exactly the same things, under Exactly the same circumstances, many of the knee-jerk defenders of this nonsense would be some of the loudest howlers against it.

It's because it's Bush doing it, that makes it alright for them.

However, I wonder if they've bothered to think further down the road, and what happens with all these wonderful "powers" they claim for Bush, are suddenly in the hands of the next Dem Prez.

Will they still say the same things?

All in all, the old adage was correct, He who is willing to sacrifice a little Liberty, for a little Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security.

[Sandy]

Why in the hell can you not see the danger of government being able to obtain private calling data without any kind of due process?

The danger is obvious, which is why federal law forbids the the phone companies to do what they're doing.

[Tarpon]

You obviously know little .. no probable cause is required. Of course you could go to the web site of a phone company and read their own privacy statements, you have none, they do with your calling records what they want. Yep, that's what the Supreme Court said as well, no expectation of privacy from customers regarding their billing records. They sell and trade billing records, calling patterns and other records to the highest bidders, or just give them out to whomever is doing marketing with them. Ever wonder how you get those flyers with your bills?

But got to admit, you are more than a little paranoid. Google your own phone number ... have fun.

bye.