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To: TexasPatriot8
"there is nothing in the Constitution that even remotely or vaguely guarantees that the government can't conduct non-invasive measures to guarantee the safety and security of the country"

Assuming you skip over the first and forth amendments. As for "non-invasive" that is highly debatable, it is as "non-invasive" as the feds sitting outside your house and registering everyone entering and leaving without having any probable cause to do so. That IMO is very invasive.

"Further, in a time of war, the government is authorized to take whatever measures necessary to guarantee the safety and security of the country and its people."

Incorrect. leeway is given, but short of martial law being declared, the law still applies.

" Sometimes this civil libertarian crap goes way too far."

Spoken like a true liberal.

"The NSA isn't trying to take my guns away."

You might want to pull out that copy of the constitution you carry and read it again. The second amendment is only one of many items written in there.
71 posted on 05/11/2006 10:36:45 AM PDT by ndt
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To: ndt
.....oh please.....

.....first.....

.....it is as "non-invasive" as the feds sitting outside your house and registering everyone entering and leaving without having any probable cause to do so.....

.....that aint cost effective, if they were willing to pay the cost,they'd have probable cause.....

.....running a bunch of numbers through a computer is cost effective.....

.....people would start to talk if the feds were outside my home(lol).....

.....they got everybody's phone records.....

Incorrect. leeway is given, but short of martial law being declared, the law still applies.

.....what law?.....

.....you mean to tell me that somewhere out there.....

.....some congresscritter thought that one day.....

.....a big evil gov dept would want to collect phone records to look into patterns that might give clues about terrorist.....

.....and.....

.....that somebody with nothing else to do except worry about hypothetical losses of liberty might gripe.....

.....so.....

.....they wrote a law?.....

73 posted on 05/11/2006 11:10:42 AM PDT by cyberaxe (((.....does this mean I'm kewl now?.....)))
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