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To: FairOpinion

I cannot believe how many alleged conservatives are buying in to this stupid and self-destructive theory of letting the RATS win congress to show the 'pubs how mad we are. If you want conservatives in congress, vote for them in the primaries. If you want to ruin what's left of this country, let the RATS win and see what happens.


11 posted on 05/11/2006 12:48:00 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

"I cannot believe how many alleged conservatives are buying in to this stupid and self-destructive theory of letting the RATS win congress to show the 'pubs how mad we are. "

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I am glad you said "alleged" conservatives. Notice that these people spend endless diatribed bashing President Bush and the Republicans, but mostly don't post a single post criticizing Democrats. Even on thread about how the Dems want to raise taxes, they dismiss that as "no big deal", then spend their time bashing the Republicans. NO REAL CONSERVATIVE would do that.

I think many of them are the people described in this article:

The new 'Republicans vote on Wednesday' game (FR Mentioned) (article full text)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613957/posts?page=87#87


"But there seems to be a new “Republicans vote on Wednesday” taking form in time for the 2006 election. This effort targets grassroots conservatives known for their passionate views about issues who may be open to a grassroots voting rebellion. But the effort is being led, or at the very least aided, by liberals pretending to be grassroots conservatives, as opposed to actual grassroots conservatives themselves.

The premise follows a scheme previously found most often on talk radio programs: a liberal activist calls a conservative radio host, such as Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham, and delivers the line: “I’ve been voting Republican for 30 years, but I’ve finally had it and I’m not voting this year.” Or my favorite: “I’m a Reagan Republican, but I’m fed up and voting for John Kerry.” (Because that is what Reagan Republicans would do, vote for John Kerry.) At this point, the host usually asks a couple of questions and it becomes painfully obvious that the supposed Reagan Republican has probably never voted for anyone left of Michael Dukakis.

The intentions are clear: the caller hopes to make it appear as though there is already a large uprising of conservatives who are rebelling against GOP candidates, and thus, wishes to incite other Republicans to pick up the same attitude and pass it along, leading to the Democrat becoming more competitive. The successes of such a strategy on voting habits are unclear, especially given that the conservative radio host often refutes the caller’s talking points.

But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to “spread the word” (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives.

The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have “had it with Republicans.” They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead.

The blogs and e-mails are convincing in their wording and could incite the sort of reaction that occurred following the Harriet Miers nomination to the Supreme Court. Of course, any liberal could read Free Republic and find out what’s irritating conservatives this week, grab a handful of phrases, and toss it on their “I’m a conservative but voting for a Democratic because of (insert issue here)” blog. After tossing in a few posts about the evils of Hillary Clinton and abortion, the blog is now being run by a bona-fide “conservative.” A few e-mails and link connections later, the message of conservatives voting against Republicans is spread. "


18 posted on 05/11/2006 12:58:02 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: ozzymandus
I cannot believe how many alleged conservatives are buying in to this stupid and self-destructive theory of letting the RATS win congress to show the 'pubs how mad we are. If you want conservatives in congress, vote for them in the primaries. If you want to ruin what's left of this country, let the RATS win and see what happens.

Gridlock is better than what we have today. The GOP congress is just too willing to go along with any big government program Bush wants. The GOP controlling the Senate, House and White House was a dream, and it turned into a nightmare as far as big government goes. You can blame the Rinos, but that doesn't fly. The GOP was more concerned about keeping power, than they were with keeping promises.

75 posted on 05/11/2006 4:14:42 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: ozzymandus
I cannot believe how many alleged conservatives are buying in to this stupid and self-destructive theory of letting the RATS win congress to show the 'pubs how mad we are. If you want conservatives in congress, vote for them in the primaries. If you want to ruin what's left of this country, let the RATS win and see what happens.

Good points. The problem is that we have a damned if we do, damned if we don't situation. If we can't get good, qualified conservatives to run against the incumbents (and it's past time for them to put their hat in the ring), we have no choice but to send the sellouts back to office.

Once we send them back to office, they interpret the result as the voters condoning and approving the job they have been doing and take that as a mandate to continue down the road of big government, more spending, bad tax policy, encouraging illegal immigration . . . . . . and on, and on, and on. At some point, conservatives have to let these deaf elected office holders know that enough is enough!!! If you have a solution, SPEAK UP!!!
79 posted on 05/11/2006 4:21:33 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: ozzymandus

I think you idea is best for the country. What I would like to see is a discussion on how we can win the 2006 election and keep both the House and the Senate in Republican hands.


230 posted on 05/11/2006 2:22:46 PM PDT by jerry639
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