Posted on 05/11/2006 12:31:45 AM PDT by FairOpinion
Because it is vital to keep the House, much of the House in on our side, we do not want to punish the good guys to we?
Using this logic portends that our Constitution be ignored unless it is part and parcel of a national election?
...I get it, you skipped school today. Does your Mom know you are playing with a computer?
Bad thing is, if the GOP does lose this year, they will blame it on the conservatives and move further to the left. If they do manage to hang on, it will only make them think all is well and move further to the left.
Despite all the screaming, no one is really listening.
Good point. But there is no viable third alternative. The question becomes, what do we do now?
Heard Osborne lost.
Also heard he came out very pro illegal immigrant.
We don't want to CLOSE the border! You sound like the nativist or xenophobe the open orders factions accuse people of. We want to CONTROL it. You keep this up and you'll alienate allies we need to support immigration reform. It just make things worse.
I am deeply disappointed at the naivete of people here who think politicians don't really act like politicians.
Ping for reference. Here we are, worried about losing both houses to the Democrats, when I say (based on the legislation that has been proposed and passed) that it looks like we already gave both up to the Dems years ago.
But that is not what I was referring to. I was speaking of listening to the base on specific issues. No, reps are not listening to their particular constituents, they are stiffing them on issues those constituents care about most and accomodating them on secondary matters the reps themselves, and the national party leadership, doesn't give a darn about either way.
Funding a road or some minor bit of pork is a matter of complete indifference to the GOP nationals, so reps are free to give their constituents whatever they ask for. But on immigration, the president and leading presidential candidates want open borders, so 80% of the country being against them is irrelevant, they just vote for amnesty while spinning instead of voting for amnesty while crowing about it.
Same with CFR. Same with making tax cuts permanent. Same with overall control of spending. The national party tries to straddle their own base and what they imagine are possible vote pick-ups beyond the party, by accomodating leftist policies. They accomodate lobbyists. They accomodate cocktail hostesses and their PC nonsense. They try to get the commies at the NYT to award them Strange New Respect.
And every time they do (Bush pere taxes, anyone?), the base gets livid and chops their legs off at the knee. And they never learn, they always take it for granted as supposedly not having anywhere else to go, and appease it with a bare minimum on the major issues, and lots of useless trivialities on stuff nobody else on earth cares about. This season it is amnesty and trying to get illegals and those who hire them, to like them.
It's politically stupid, on a collosal scale. I don't want them to lose, but that is the direct effect of their pigheaded idiocy and stiffing of their own electoral base. If it gets us Hillary and inaction on Iran, it may just destroy civilization. But hey, K street and the hostesses will like them for their last few years, and who needs to be serious?
They will never grok that what media elites and Dems want them to do and consider high minded, enlightened, and responsible, is surrender our principles and their power, and give it back to the oh so high minded and enlightened Dems. Who will promptly surrender to every enemy of this country, foreign or domestic, they can find.
I think you idea is best for the country. What I would like to see is a discussion on how we can win the 2006 election and keep both the House and the Senate in Republican hands.
What you are suggesting is to go with a 7 man roster in the meantime.
Also heard he came out very pro illegal immigrant.
He did. I voted for Heineman. Osborne's illegal alien status was a deal-breaker for a lot of people. You would think the national party would get it.
I think we may be discovering that our party just doesn't have these beliefs to the extent we thought it did.
Your criticism against Ms. Noonan is quite patronizing. I'd like to respectfully disagree, and request that you present evidence as to how Ms. Noonan has become a "punch-drunk mass media writer."
I think Peggy is right on on this one. The republicans need to get their act together or they will lose in November - and border security and reduced government spending - are what they need to do in order to get their act together.
There's nothing condescending about my criticisms of her latest writings; I think I punch her squarely between the eyes -- and she needs it.
What I mean about a punch-drunk mainstream media writer are those who feel compelled or financially obligated to say something just because they can and have to -- rather than because they really have some insight of rare inspiration. If it's not there, it's not there, and going through the motions, punching at phantoms in the air, hoping for a connection, if not a knockout, is not going to get one to the promised land of writer's Nirvana.
I can tell when she's at her best -- but I can also tell when she's just counting the words. At least she's a decent person -- and not like the countless others whose faces and expressions are only contorted in rage and humiliations -- seeking the humiliation and abuse of those they envy and resent, as their only hope for a sense of competence and adequacy, as though that somehow made them, one of the chosen (liberal) elite.
That's what happens when catering to aging primadonnas instead of building up a good farm team. Sometimes you need a building season or two. Luckily, the other team is in even worse shape. Perhaps it's time for an expansion franchise? We're losing fans at an alarming rate with the quality of play on the field these days.
It will take more than the "Anybody But Democrats" platform to get conservatives excited to go out and vote in November
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