Posted on 05/10/2006 11:06:19 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
You're right, of course, and this is my preferred way of handling the problem. I'm also in favor of building a wall and deporting as many illegals as we can manage--even 10% would send the message that getting and staying here is harder than before.
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"Employers would have to check Social Security numbers"
Good. Enforce the law ALREADY in place: $250,000 fine for fraudulent use of a SS number.
Doesn't a red flag go up at the IRS when (read: IF) five tax returns come in under the same SSN?
the way I would structure the system is - there is zero barrier to initial hiring. because if there is, then you get into all kinds of civil suits against employers for discrimination.
the employer can hire person X on the spot, and submit the electronic authentication check over the web. If it comes back in two weeks and is invalid - the employer receives a warning. if they fail to act on that, or if some appeal to re-verify fails, then the fines start 2 months later.
this won't stop off-the-books hiring of course.
Wait 'til we get those illegals voting...then you'll see reform.
no one needs to go to jail.
but what you can do, for the egregious offenders who ignore warnings and fines - is to use asset forfeiture laws against them, like we do in the war on drugs, to seize their business assets.
"unless you provide some disincentives for many of these people to be able to stay, so that they return home, you are stuck with either the status quo, or the worse idea of granting them amnesty."
Or worse, we take away the possibility to work but don't deport, and certainly don't take away welfare, so they stay here and live off of the public dole.
Right you are. First they would actually have to get this law passed, then fund it, and then implement it. Probably take them 45 years.
border security is a separate issue - part of a comprehensive plan of course. what this topic addresses is, what do we do with the people here now (and those who are still coming), who are working?
yes - read upthread, what happens is that the LEGAL american gets called by the IRS for unreported income.
no one said this was going to be easy.
still, I think that without the ability to obtain work, get money to send home, alot of "transient" illegals will return home.
IOW, you CANNOT allow amnesty for the illegal alien without providing it for his/her felon employer.
This law with teeth could solve or attempt to solve the immigration worries.. or part of it.. Which means IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.. Illegal immigration is done/allowed ON PURPOSE by George Bush.. Bush would NEVER sign this law if it had a prayer of being prosecuted.. If no teeth THEN he might sign it.. I say might..
I totally agree.
Unless it REALLY hurts, they won't stop.
Same with a linear border barrier. Unless it has the potential to cause significant hardship or lead to serious bodily harm, illegal entries won't stop.
And they need to incorporate birth dates. The SS admin has the birth date.
Thank you. I thought so.
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