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To: papertyger
I have searched both yesterday and today's articles by Sara Carter, and can find no line containg the phrase "whatever the Minutemen say is the actual fact, period, end of discussion." Please make your reference more specific. I, in no way, see either writer using any document as the sole basis of their articles.

I see the problem.

I said that Michelle Malkin's vetting policy boils down to accepting whatever the Minuteman pass to her, and that she does so without reading the documentation that allegedly supports their claims. Unfortunately, I made the absolutely horrid blunder of leaving some quotes in before pressing the Post button.

Now, yes, a certain species of pedantic jerk that is gifted with far more education than good sense will make much of my misusing quotes. Boo-f***ing-hoo. I f***ed up. Unlike Michelle, I accept that I f***ed up, admit it, and continue on.

Now that that is out of the way, on to the real purpose of this discussion.

You see, unlike Michelle, I actually read Sara Carter's report carefully, and read the documents cited therein. The claims made by the Minutemen do not stand up to scrutiny. The documents make it clear that the consular officials have access to information on arrests, including the names of all participants (this includes arresting officers/citizens, and witness statements). This is nothing new. They've always had that access. It's part of any consular official's job, anywhere in the world.

I knew this because of my background. You see, I have had to arrest foreign nationals as a cop, so I am familiar with consular notification requirements. And, yes, if the Minutemen give their information to the Border Patrol, and also state that they observed someone crossing the border at location X and time Y, then that information will be in the arrest report. If they give any witness statements, those documents are also available to consular officials.

Michelle ignored all of those facts to jump to her desired conclusion, justify her use of purple prose, and thus continue to play to her chosen audience.

109 posted on 05/10/2006 3:19:20 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
You see, unlike Michelle, I actually read Sara Carter's report carefully, and read the documents cited therein.

Have you been corresponding with Sara Carter like Michelle has?

I understand your frustration. It's a bitch having someone hold your feet to the fire as close as you want to hold others.

Michelle ignored all of those facts to jump to her desired conclusion, justify her use of purple prose, and thus continue to play to her chosen audience.

Coming from you, this is rich.

111 posted on 05/10/2006 3:26:44 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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