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Officials disclaim Bulletin 'tipping' report (Sara Carter's follow-up report)
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| 5/10/2006
| Sara A. Carter
Posted on 05/10/2006 1:48:26 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Howlin
I think it's because most of us were willing to wait for the OTHER side of the story before jumping to conclusions.Typical you...
Can't answer the question as it stands, so make believe the question was asking something else.
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posted on
05/10/2006 12:55:23 PM PDT
by
papertyger
(Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
To: Howlin
Oh, please; it's on every immigration thread for all the world to see; anybody denying it is throwing in a strawman. A strawman is when you propose an exaggeration or distortion of an opponents position, then argue against it instead of the real position. Here's a ready made example of a classic strawman:
"What is truly amazing is that the very people who claim to despise Mexico are now quoting heavily from a Mexican web site and taking it as absolute fact." --Howlin, post 22, on this thread.
Now that you know what one is, perhaps you can avoid them in the future.
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posted on
05/10/2006 12:57:20 PM PDT
by
LexBaird
(Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
To: papertyger
Can you give any reason why your vetting process is superior to Michelle Malkin's?Hmm. It could be due to the fact that I, a former police officer (medically retired after taking a bullet in one of my two favorite lungs), actually read the original article and determined that it related to consular access to arrestees and detainees (said access being regulated by treaty), which includes access to information regarding the circumstances of the arrest/detention. In other words, I combined subject matter expertise with carefully examining the text of the report.
Compare and contrast with Michelle Malkin, whose vetting process is "whatever the Minutemen say is the actual fact, period, end of discussion."
She seems to be running with this on her new endeavor "vent" which is less than two weeks old. I'd think she'd be kind of cautious with her credibility at this point.
"Cautious" does not generate viewership, which is critical for determining ad revenue.
To: jmc813
So bad that there's a good chance they could go socialist/communist in the near future. They've been socialist/communist since the 1920's. Why do you think so many Mexicans are coming to the US?
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:00:45 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The point is we all do it, whether it is about immigration, Schiavo, Duke rape case, etc....everyone does it.
Trying to act like you and a few others don't do it is hogwash.
65
posted on
05/10/2006 1:01:12 PM PDT
by
yellowdoghunter
(I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
To: papertyger
I'd think she'd be kind of cautious with her credibility at this point. Malkin blew her credibility when she played church lady to Laura Bush after the Correspondents Dinner last year and in her historic revisionism as she defends the internment of Japanese-Americans behind barbed wire in WWII.
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:01:54 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Hmm. It could be due to the fact that I, a former police officer (medically retired after taking a bullet in one of my two favorite lungs)This is relevant, how? Seeing as you start your answer by citing the utterly superfluous, am I to believe it gets better?
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:02:37 PM PDT
by
papertyger
(Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
To: LexBaird
"What is truly amazing is that the very people who claim to despise Mexico are now quoting heavily from a Mexican web site and taking it as absolute fact." --Actually that's a fact.
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:05:53 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: papertyger
This is relevant, how? Seeing as you start your answer by citing the utterly superfluous, am I to believe it gets better?It's not superfluous. I mentioned my former LEO credentials once in another discussion, and got immediately splashed with childish insinuations about why I am a FORMER police officer.
So, I have to put that out there to preempt the inevitable personal attacks.
Finish reading the post, please.
To: papertyger
I answered it; I just didn't answer it the way you needed me to.
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:06:19 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Compare and contrast with Michelle Malkin, whose vetting process is "whatever the Minutemen say is the actual fact, period, end of discussion."You obviously haven't read her report. She is corresponding with Sara Carter. And who the hell are you quoting?
"Cautious" does not generate viewership, which is critical for determining ad revenue.
It does when your stock and trade is "analysis." Haven't you heard what's happening to the dinosaur media by following your business plan?
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:07:41 PM PDT
by
papertyger
(Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
To: sinkspur
Malkin blew her credibility when she played church lady to Laura Bush after the Correspondents Dinner last year and in her historic revisionism as she defends the internment of Japanese-Americans behind barbed wire in WWII. Will she volunteer to be the first new detainee in Manzanar?
I mean, she's a Filipina, and we are fighting (among other folks) people from the Philippines. Therefore, by the argument she advanced, she ought be volunteering for the lockup.
To: sinkspur
Malkin blew her credibility when...Sorry, not familiar with the story, and dubious of the analysis. She doesn't seem to be suffering for it that I can tell.
73
posted on
05/10/2006 1:09:33 PM PDT
by
papertyger
(Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
To: dirtboy
""How did they know the number of volunteers in Chicago? And why should the Mexican government care?" asked Connie Hair, spokeswoman for the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps in Washington, D.C."Do you know if this is the Connie Hair we used to know around these parts? I can't recall her nick, it was Clinton-something......
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:09:57 PM PDT
by
SW6906
(5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
To: papertyger
It does when your stock and trade is "analysis." Whose stock and trade is being an "analysis?"
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:10:06 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: papertyger
You obviously haven't read her report. She is corresponding with Sara Carter. And who the hell are you quoting?The documents cited in Sara Carter's original report. They don't mean what she (or Michelle) think they mean. If proficiency in English were a necessary prerequisite for MAINTAINING citizenship, Carter and Malkin would be candidates for deportation.
It does when your stock and trade is "analysis."
Malkin's stock and trade is not analysis; it's punditry.
To: M. Thatcher
"Today's report by the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, `U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols,' is inaccurate," Depends on the definition of "is"!
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:12:49 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
To: papertyger
She doesn't seem to be suffering for it that I can tell. Well, I suppose that's true.
Stormfront's adherents spend money that's as green as mine.
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:13:03 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
To: SW6906
I can't say for sure, but I imagine it it. Her screen name was Clinton's a Liar.
Thanks for noticing that and pinging me.
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:13:42 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
(An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
To: SW6906
Do you know if this is the Connie Hair we used to know around these parts? I can't recall her nick, it was Clinton-something...... Clinton's a liar, and, yes, it would have to be.
One has to wonder if this is a paid position, and, if it is, how that came to be, given that the MM are a volunteer group.
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posted on
05/10/2006 1:16:40 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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