Dunno about harm, but it sure stinks.
OK just passed a no smoking law for public places. Is much nicer to eat out, now.
1 posted on
05/09/2006 9:22:17 PM PDT by
LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
Researchers say current estimates show that average daily exposure to secondhand smoke among exposed individuals is equivalent to smoking one cigarette per day; that conveys about one-third of the additional risk of heart disease associated with smoking a pack a day.The title is a lie. That's not a study--that's an editorial. Those aren't researchers--those are propagandists. Give us some double-blind data that shows any affect whatsoever. There is none.
101 posted on
05/10/2006 1:18:49 AM PDT by
jammer
To: LouAvul
To: LouAvul
"Using a model to estimate the impact....."
Um, a model is not a study.
"Is much nicer to eat out, now."
Of course, prior to the legislation you were free to risk your own capital and work to make a non-smoking establishment available in the market. Instead you think it is nice to steal these rights from those that did risk their capital and invested the sweat of their brow. Socialism at its finest.
110 posted on
05/10/2006 5:16:43 AM PDT by
CSM
(I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
To: LouAvul
I see some claims about estimates of the raw numbers of heart related ailments, but absolutely nothing to support a claim of "slashing the rate" of such ailments. Methinks there's a substantial amount of spin afoot.
112 posted on
05/10/2006 5:40:00 AM PDT by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: LouAvul
The article doesn't say who did the study. It will be interesting to see if the model and methodology are flawed.
New cases of heart disease would be reduced by 9,300 in the first year, adding up to 228,300 cases prevented by 2030. Total heart disease-related deaths would drop by 2,200 in the first year after eliminating secondhand smoke and rise to 6,400 prevented deaths per year by 2030.
The numbers seem very low for a US population of 300 million now and one that will be approaching 400 million in 2030. It doesn't even appear to be outside a standard deviation. I question any study that can posit such exact numbers as 9,300. Other studies on second hand smoke have not found such a correlation.
113 posted on
05/10/2006 5:51:08 AM PDT by
kabar
To: LouAvul
Using a model to estimate the impact of eliminating exposure to secondhand smoke on heart disease, researchers found stopping secondhand smoke would quickly reduce the number of heart-related deaths. Is this based on the hockey stick model for global warming?
To: LouAvul
Using a model to estimate the impact of eliminating exposure to secondhand smoke on heart disease... Computer models are so convenient because you can program them to predict anything you want, and you just call anybody who questions the result names.
Computer models are the only "proof" of global warming, for the same reasons.
115 posted on
05/10/2006 5:58:32 AM PDT by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
To: LouAvul
116 posted on
05/10/2006 6:03:30 AM PDT by
kabar
To: LouAvul
Eliminating the threat of secondhand smoke would prevent more than 228,000 new cases of heart disease and 119,000 heart-related deaths over the next 25 years, according to a new study. I dunno about smelling smoke, but I sure smell BS in this "study".
117 posted on
05/10/2006 6:10:10 AM PDT by
from occupied ga
(Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
To: LouAvul
>>Eliminating the threat of secondhand smoke would prevent more than 228,000 new cases of heart disease and 119,000 heart-related deaths over the next 25 years, according to a new study.<<
Well steps have already been taken to reduce 2nd hand smoke so heart disease should already show those results.
149 posted on
05/10/2006 10:27:43 AM PDT by
gondramB
(He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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