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Ethanol Fueling a New Economy
Fox News ^ | 5/9/2006 | Staff

Posted on 05/09/2006 8:53:30 AM PDT by Dark Skies

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1 posted on 05/09/2006 8:53:33 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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Politicians like it because there's no downside for them: they kiss up to the environmental movement and the agriculture lobby at the same time.


2 posted on 05/09/2006 9:01:45 AM PDT by zipper
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I like it because ultimately, the arabs will get their fat islamic asses kicked by a vegitable. How lame is that!?


3 posted on 05/09/2006 9:02:42 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: Dark Skies

ANYTHING that makes the Arabs EAT THEIR OIL makes me happy!


4 posted on 05/09/2006 9:06:26 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Dark Skies
Ethanol backers foresee vast vistas of corn fields churning out feedstock for the clean burning fuel additive running millions of cars in the United States, the world's largest consumer of energy.

I'm beginning to sound like a broken record on this. Does anyone else have an uneasy feeling about growing food crops then using them to power automobiles? And, as I've pointed out numerous times on this forum, what's worse in my opinion is growing such crops in semi-arid Great Plains States (west, generally, of I-35) where water is pumped (better word "mined") from the Ogallala aquifer never to be replaced for thousands of years, if ever. Using irreplacable water to grow food crops to power automobile engines -- what's wrong with this scenario?

There are answers, but it means bucking the agricultural giants like ADM, the politicans, and the business types who see a quick temporary profit to be made while the smaller farmers and communities are well on their way to extinction. It's all about choices.

5 posted on 05/09/2006 9:06:29 AM PDT by CedarDave (Gen. McCaffrey: "There is a rapidly growing animosity" among U.S. troops in Iraq toward the press...)
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To: zipper

The only issues I see is so much farming is so energy intensive that there is a net loss --- it only works because of tax incentives.

That said, it is probably getting more pratical.


6 posted on 05/09/2006 9:06:44 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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there has to be a corncob joke in there somewhere.


7 posted on 05/09/2006 9:08:12 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Dark Skies

I've heard that corn is one of the worst crops to use for making ethanol, and that sugar cane/beets produce much more.
I guess that they don't have as powerful a lobby.


8 posted on 05/09/2006 9:10:34 AM PDT by Forrestfire (("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." Theodore Roosevelt))
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Can anyone explain how difficult it is to turn corn into ethanol--jokes about stills aside? Is it something that people can do on their own, or does it require an advanced refinery?


9 posted on 05/09/2006 9:11:06 AM PDT by Defiant (Muslim Unitarian:There is no God but Abraham's, and Mohammed said he was his prophet.)
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I guess it's time for me to buy that farm I been dreamin bout.

Funny, about a year or so ago I watched a show how scientists were trying to develop corn that tasted just as sweet but had less sugar to cater to the Atkins craze. I guess now they'll be going back to the labs to attempt to achieve the opposite to cater to the ethanol industry.
10 posted on 05/09/2006 9:11:16 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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America's addiction to gasoline.

Even Fox is taking up the Carterism.

11 posted on 05/09/2006 9:15:40 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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is growing such crops in semi-arid Great Plains States

That would be a very non-bright thing to do.
12 posted on 05/09/2006 9:17:13 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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bttt and switchgrass is good to, new enzymes actualy double the suger from corn but it is energy intensive to grow...but I prefer to pay a US farmer and starve a Saudi terrorist


13 posted on 05/09/2006 9:18:14 AM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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Keep dreamin'!

Ethanol = S C A M

Makes as much sense as hula~hoops to those who understand.

Like any fad, it's easy to sell at first with half truth & lies, eventually the cruel facts surface.

14 posted on 05/09/2006 9:18:34 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Forrestfire
I guess that they don't have as powerful a lobby.

They don't. That is the sad thing. The ethanol market has a lot of greedy little fingers in the pie and that is never good for letting the best technology win.
15 posted on 05/09/2006 9:19:47 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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With record crude oil and soaring gasoline prices, some experts are worried about how deeply the burgeoning ethanol industry will cut into the food supply.

This has always been my biggest concern. I expect food shortages within 14 years.

16 posted on 05/09/2006 9:19:49 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Defiant

Google "homemade ethanol."


17 posted on 05/09/2006 9:20:09 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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[Politicians like it because there's no downside for them: they kiss up to the environmental movement and the agriculture lobby at the same time.]

I like it because it means less US dollars funding the oil terrorist.


18 posted on 05/09/2006 9:20:55 AM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: Forrestfire

They don't have the right tax incentives.


19 posted on 05/09/2006 9:26:20 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: norraad
Like any fad, it's easy to sell at first with half truth & lies, eventually the cruel facts surface.

I don't think were seeing a fad, there's a lot of money being pumped into renewable technology. If the U.S. can take the lead, there's plenty of money to be made globally.

20 posted on 05/09/2006 9:26:24 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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