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To: Mrs. Don-o
I disagree on why the Canaanites were an abomination---the harlot Rahab let the cat out of the bag when she said that they KNEW they were not supposed to be there. Obviously, God would be an unjust God if He allowed the Jews to take their land "just cuz."

We Christians are the people of His covenant now.

Regardless of what one wants to claim about abortion, the U.S. is the most moral nation on the planet, with more practicing Christians than anywhere (perhaps not as a % of population, but in sheer numbers). This is a glass half full vs. half empty argument.

If there was no such thing as "citizenship," Paul would NEVER have made such a big deal out of his civil rights as a Roman citizen. He would have had to say, "Well, I'm just another alien, so who cares. Kill me." But he appealed directly to Caesar on the basis of CITIZENSHIP LAW.

By their very nature in coming here illegally, the Mexicans have no more part in the "covenant" than anyone else. God doesn't like lawbreakers, and said so in Romans, repeatedly. Oh, and don't forget, they were the ORIGINAL child killers (Aztecs) in their previous incarnation.

20 posted on 05/09/2006 10:26:36 AM PDT by LS
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To: LS; newgeezer
This discussion just shows even more strikingly why you shouldn't adopt this "we're the Chosen People, they're the Canaanites" mode of judgment. It isn't true, it's not a close analogy, and it doesn't work.

It's not true because the United States is not populated by Hebrews (!)

It's not a close analogy because, if you're talking about people forcefully entering a land that's already occupied by somebody else, the immigrants in that scenario are the Hebrews, not the Canaanites.

Oh well, ha ha, aside from all that, you say Americans are the Chosen People regardless, because USA is the most moral country on earth? The most moral country on earth?

LS, that really doesn't work.

We have an EXTREME pro-abortion law: any mother can kill any or all of her unborn babies, at any age, at any stage of development, for any reason or for no reason at all, and our Supreme Court says that's enshrined in our Constitution. In terms of extremism, our law is second only to Communist China.

We have 400 million pornography-related web pages on the Internet (more pages of porn than we have population.) We are major, world-wide exporters of both abortion technology and pornography.

At present, an American film which states that "almost everything we were taught about Christ is false" is being gleefully distributed worldwide.

What a uniquely God-pleasing nation!

You wrote: "Oh, and don't forget, they [Mexicans] were the ORIGINAL child killers (Aztecs) in their previous incarnation."

There hasn't been Aztec human sacrifice in Mexico for more than 485 years. Since you, however, are judging nations by their previous (er) "incarnations," would you care to have typical Euro-mix Americans own up to the child-sacrifice committed by Vikings, Druids, and Franks?

Rather than stretching, tailoring, and twisting things around to fit into an elaborate but unlikely occupation-of-Canaan scenario, I think most of us know the right things to do. Individuals and churches should treat people humanely. The government should enforce the laws.

Just as the Mark Earley article very simply stated it.

24 posted on 05/09/2006 12:21:00 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to act justly, to love mercy, and walk humbly with your God?)
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To: LS
Regardless of what one wants to claim about abortion, the U.S. is the most moral nation on the planet, with more practicing Christians than anywhere (perhaps not as a % of population, but in sheer numbers).

Actually, it is estimated that Red China already has as many Christians in the house churches as there are in America.

Not that that diminishes us, I'm just saying that they're as big and growing.

33 posted on 05/09/2006 1:53:21 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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