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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: clawrence3
He doesn't support criminals - millions have been exiled since he took office

They weren't exiled, they broke the laws to enter this nation, therefore they are criminals.

- he doesn't support vigilantes either.

Nobody said anything about vigilantes, we are talking about the Minuteman patrols.
921 posted on 05/09/2006 3:58:54 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Marine Inspector
BP Apps are not arrests and are not public knowledge.

Silly me. Detaining someone under color of law, back in my days as a cop, was called an "arrest." Even if it was an "administrative matter."

922 posted on 05/09/2006 3:59:02 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Yaelle
Every elected official showing condescension to the above desire doesn't deserve his post!

I firmly believe that one could take people off the street at random in their respective home districts and replace most of the House and Senate with them armed with a pamphlet explaining the job and voting rules and get a better result.

923 posted on 05/09/2006 3:59:32 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: nicmarlo
Wasn't it though?

In spades!

924 posted on 05/09/2006 3:59:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
We operate a little differently down on the border.
925 posted on 05/09/2006 4:01:07 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: pbrown
this is a ploy by the marxist to mislead us all.

I switched to coffee from kool-aid awhile ago. : )

926 posted on 05/09/2006 4:01:49 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: pbrown

What we need is transparency. : )


927 posted on 05/09/2006 4:02:23 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: polishedsear
Someday soon, our idiotic govt is gonna push the wrong button on someone, and the crap is going to hit the fan. Chaos will escalate rapidly. Citizens will find themselves in the middle of the biggest battle since Gettysburg.

Another Travis McGee, he of dear departed memory.

928 posted on 05/09/2006 4:03:03 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: nicmarlo; Jeff Head; holdonnow; Laura_Ingraham; Carl/NewsMax; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; ...


American LEOs killed by illegals each year?

I do not have those stats at hand

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BUT:

I do know the 1999 FBI-DOJ uniform Crime Report stated (from my memory folks! look it up yourself - do not bug me if you are too bloody lazy to GOOGLE the FBI site) about 356 LEOs were killed by criminals in 1999 - (not just illegals)

CURRENTLY:

About 35% of all convicted felons in federal prisons are illegals

About 35% of all illegals in the USA are collecting welfare

95% of all Sheriff's outstanding warrants for violent criminal felons in Los Angeles are for illegals
SOURCE - Heather McDonald Manhattan Institute

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The 10,000+ I quoted to you is accurate because I just did a FR thread comment on it recently:

12 Americans murdered by ilegals every day

13 Americans killed by drunk driver illegals every day

10,125 Americans murdered &/or killed by illegals in 2003

SOURCE:

FBI-DOJ 2003

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As this is 2006 - please allow for higher numbers of Americans killed by illegals in 2004, 2005, and 2006

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929 posted on 05/09/2006 4:03:07 PM PDT by devolve ((----Bimboly Geldfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
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To: devolve; Jeff Head; holdonnow; Laura_Ingraham; Carl/NewsMax; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik
As this is 2006 - please allow for higher numbers of Americans killed by illegals in 2004, 2005, and 2006

A gross miscarriage of justice, or protections, for American citizens and American Law Enforcement Officers.

930 posted on 05/09/2006 4:05:45 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Marine Inspector
We operate a little differently down on the border.

I guess...

931 posted on 05/09/2006 4:07:19 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: devolve

932 posted on 05/09/2006 4:10:00 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: nicmarlo
I switched to coffee from kool-aid awhile ago.

So did I, nic, so did I.

933 posted on 05/09/2006 4:11:55 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: pbrown

Just cream, no sugar. : )


934 posted on 05/09/2006 4:12:50 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo
What we need is transparency.

That would mean peering into their souls. That job of peering into souls has already been taken. *snicker*

935 posted on 05/09/2006 4:13:50 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: sinkspur
Another Travis McGee, he of dear departed memory.

Travis McGee is a great and patriotic American and undeserving of your sneer. Were you but half the man he is.

936 posted on 05/09/2006 4:17:01 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: pbrown

yah! : )


937 posted on 05/09/2006 4:17:05 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo

I like mine sweet, just like me. ;-)


938 posted on 05/09/2006 4:18:13 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: nicmarlo

;-)


939 posted on 05/09/2006 4:19:16 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: potlatch; Joe Boucher


940 posted on 05/09/2006 4:25:14 PM PDT by devolve ((----Bimboly Geldfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
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