Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike
While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.
A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.
"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.
"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."
Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.
"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.
"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."
(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...
Senate Floor Speech
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison
March 16, 2005
In Detroit, Mahmoud Youssef Kourani was indicted in the Eastern District of Michigan on one count of conspiracy to provide material support to Hezbollah. Kourani was already in custody for entering the country illegally through Mexico and was involved in fundraising activities on behalf of Hezbollah.The two groups of Arab males were discovered by patrol guards from Willcox, AZ. One field agent said:
These guys didn't speak Spanish, and they were speaking to each other in Arabic. It's ridiculous that we don't take this more seriously. We're told not to say a thing to the media.
This is a field agent for the Border Patrol.
* * * ...When I first came to Congress, we doubled our Border Patrol agents from 3,000 to 6,000. We were a country that was porous, both on the borders of Canada and Mexico. But, clearly, we have had more and more influx of illegal aliens that have become a burden in many parts of our country, and now we have a security threat from people who do not live on our borders but are using our borders as a conduit to come into our country. The examples that Senator Ensign and I have just mentioned, where we are finding Muslim prayer rugs and instructions in Arabic on how to cross the border of the Rio Grande River, are just wake-up calls that we cannot avoid. So we are, hopefully, going to have the support of Congress to add a full 2,000 Border Patrol agents.But as important as it is to catch these people, we also need to be able to detain them. Today, many times, because we have no detention facilities, we will say to the people: You must promise to come back in 60 days for your hearing on illegally entering this country.
Well, guess how many come back. Ten percent come back for their hearing. What happened to the other 90 percent? We are finding them in places such as Vermont, New York, and Detroit, MI. That is what happened to them.
Yes - see Table 40: http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/shared/statistics/yearbook/2004/Table40.xls
And, no, to your second question.
..and irony of ironies, as soon as I left the computer & turned on FOX, Neal Cavuto had one of the Minutemen and was interviewing him about this!
....Unbelievable.....
This information will simply galvanize the true American patriots even more!
No I am not - I'm saying even in the BEST CASE scenario, rounding up 13 million is the best that could be humanly expected - 6 million ain't so bad by comparison.
The Administration is working to end "catch and release" which has been in place long before Bush's term - see press release above.
What a vile filthy despicable government we have here in America. Right is wrong, black is white and evil is good. We have to be in the end times of our nation to have our very own "government" selling us out and buying lovers. Can you imagine what the Mexicans must be thinking of this arrangement. They KNOW WE ARE A BUNCH OF IMBECILES!!! If our people can not be trusted by it's own people they sure can not be trusted by other countries. Our government are WHORES buying lovers. We have lost all.
I wouldn't say "deceptive" - you can hardly dispute that Robledo Sandoval in that article should count as TWO apprehensions - it would be TWO separate crimes. The real questions are did he make it the third time, was he caught yet again, or did he stop trying?
If we are in the End Times, I guess the pre-trib people were wrong - unless you are not posting from the planet Earth?
Yes we know they want to give amnesty to all comers, including those already caught and released....I guess that is one way to work toward ending catch and release. Of course if they were serious, they would have tent city detention centers...
Your drivel is ridiculous. Look at your own chart for the decrease in apprehensions since 2000.
"The President has set a goal to end "catch-and-release" over the next year. Most illegal immigrants from Mexico can be returned to Mexico within 24 hours. Non-Mexican illegal immigrants present a different challenge. For decades, government detention facilities did not have enough beds for the non-Mexican illegal immigrants caught at the border - so most were released back into society. They were each assigned a court date, but virtually no one showed up. The Administration is ending the practice of "catch-and-release" by increasing the number of beds in detention facilities by 12 percent this year; the President's FY07 budget proposes increasing that number by another 32 percent. The Administration is expanding the use of "expedited removal," which allows us to send non-Mexican illegal immigrants home more quickly.
Last year, it took an average of 66 days to process a non-Mexican illegal immigrant. Now, the process is taking only 21 days. This has helped us end "catch-and-release" for illegal immigrants from Brazil, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua caught crossing our Southwest border. Since last summer, the total number of non-Mexican illegal immigrants released into society has been cut by more than a third. There is more work ahead, and the Administration will work with Congress to close loopholes that make it difficult to process illegal immigrants from certain countries and will continue pressing foreign governments like China to take back their citizens who enter our country illegally."
It decreased for 2 years, and then has increased to the highest levels ever recorded - I'm hoping 2005 stats were over 200K as well.
...It decreased for 2 years, and then has increased to the highest levels ever recorded - I'm hoping 2005 stats were over 200K as well....
Um you must be looking through rose colored glasses, thats not the figures I see..200k what?
You might autta rethink that statement. The president of the United States has no higher priority than the protection of American citizens and protecting our country against invaders.
"Last year an internal memo notified all agents not to give credit to Minuteman volunteers or others who call in sightings of illegal aliens," said one agent, who spoke on the condition he not be identified. "We were told to list it as a citizen call and leave it at that. Many times, we were told not to go out to Minuteman calls."
I have got a call in to the author to ask some more questions.
Agreed.
For the most part, Yes!
;)
Coincidentally, I was sent the following "joke" through e-mail the other day...
_____________________________________________________________
Two Iraqi spies met in a busy restaurant after
they had successfully slipped into the U.S.
The first spy starts speaking in Arabic.
The second spy shushes him quickly and
whispers: "Don't blow our cover.
You're in America now.
Speak Spanish
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