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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: La Enchiladita

Gosh, just when I thought I'd seen the most asinine post, you came along.


1,541 posted on 05/09/2006 9:59:40 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Texasforever; exhaustedmomma; JustPiper

While we're on the subject of our Minutemen and Minutewomen, many are military veterans.

How about you, texasforever? What is your military experience?


1,542 posted on 05/09/2006 9:59:47 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: IrishMike

Brings up an interesting question.

As far as I know, U.S. Border Patrol personnel is paid by the U.S. government. Do you suppose that SOME in the U.S. Border Patrol are also being paid by the Mexican government?


1,543 posted on 05/09/2006 10:00:11 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: La Enchiladita; JustPiper; All
And on a positive note...Major Kudos to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the IRS-Criminal Investigation Division and local authorities!!!!

4 Charged With Hiding 76 Illegal Immigrants (5/9/06)

COVINGTON, Ky. (AP) -- Four men who work for a Kentucky-based construction company were charged Tuesday with harboring illegal immigrants after federal investigators found dozens of undocumented workers at three of the company's construction sites.

A raid Tuesday at home sites in Hebron, Union and Florence revealed 76 undocumented workers laboring as subcontractors at the sites.

The arrests were the result of a yearlong investigation into the home-building company by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the IRS-Criminal Investigation Division and local authorities.

Timothy Copsy, Doug Witt, William Allison and Bill Ring each face one count. The men - who work in supervisory roles for Fischer Homes, part of the Fischer Group in Crestview Hills, Ky. - were arrested and charged in U.S. District Court. They face up to 10 years in prison and $250,000 in fines. All four men posted bond and were released.

The workers may face federal misdemeanor charges and others could face administrative immigration violations, said Dean Boyd, a spokesman for ICE.

According to the complaint filed by the U.S. Attorney's Office, authorities visited several Fischer home sites in January claiming to be searching for a Hispanic male wanted in Texas for murder.

When officials interviewed workers on the site, many admitted to being in the country illegally. The complaint alleges the managers at each of the sites knew they were using undocumented workers. The investigation is ongoing, Boyd said. Tuesday's arrests were the latest in recent efforts by ICE to stop companies who knowingly employ undocumented workers.

Link

1,544 posted on 05/09/2006 10:00:35 PM PDT by all4one (Lawmakers, your decisions on illegal immigration will help us decide if you are re-elected)
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To: righttackle44

Just as the Mexican Army has a lot of people paid off by the drug cartels?


1,545 posted on 05/09/2006 10:01:20 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Texasforever

Sources


1,546 posted on 05/09/2006 10:01:58 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: La Enchiladita
How about you, texasforever? What is your military experience?

LOL I was never in the military. I have also never been accused of molesting my 13 year old drunk daughter as Simcox was by his daughter. Now if you want to play games I will start posting the backgrounds of eveyone of the "patriots".

1,547 posted on 05/09/2006 10:02:39 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Peach
You're just too cute with your snide little insults. It must be hard for you to stand being with such magnificence 24/7.
1,548 posted on 05/09/2006 10:03:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (How much treason is overlookable treason?)
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To: nicmarlo

No one is "required" to have a Social Security or Individual Taxpayer ID Number unless they are working:

"Most hospitals will provide you with the paperwork to do this, but you can also get the form and instructions online. Your child needs a Social Security number in order to be claimed as a dependent on a tax return, to open a bank account, or to buy savings bonds. Some schools and government agencies may also require that you provide this number in order to obtain services."

http://www.ssa.gov/gethelp2.htm


1,549 posted on 05/09/2006 10:04:10 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Peach
Who would want to stop by an immigration thread to learn more and listen to the crap that gets spewed here every day? You'd have to be insane.

Well... you ARE on an immigration thread.

And, there is abundant information on many of them... dots to connect... calls for citizens to take action.

To each their own.

1,550 posted on 05/09/2006 10:04:38 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: exhaustedmomma

http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?pid=166

read the entire thing.


1,551 posted on 05/09/2006 10:05:19 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: B4Ranch
Well,
the 22-point Smart Border agreement that the United States signed with Mexico in 2002 provides a strong impetus for the development of long-term mechanisms of cooperation in law enforcement.

“Ironically, 911 may well have been the first step toward the conceptual development of a true North American security regime,” Dr. Garcia observed. The Pentagon, for example, has now placed a four star general in charge of security for the region of North America. Such steps may facilitate greater tri-lateral cooperation in the future.

“In many ways, the age of unilateralism in border controls may be over.”2
--Demetrios G. Papademetriou, Migration Policy Institute
1,552 posted on 05/09/2006 10:05:21 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: La Enchiladita

And who is learning anything on this thread? You and your little buddies have absolutely tried to own this issue on every single thread, not just immigration threads, and those who feel like arguing stop to do so. And most of us, most days, just ignore you all and learn nothing.

So if you're really intent on "educating" us, you might try modifying your efforts just a tad.


1,554 posted on 05/09/2006 10:06:40 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Northern Yankee
Keep you powder dry, and your blade sharpened.

Got 'em both on the wall, and at easy reach!


1,555 posted on 05/09/2006 10:06:42 PM PDT by kstewskis (Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting.)
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To: TheLion

The fradulent use of a Social Security Number is a federal crime.


1,556 posted on 05/09/2006 10:06:55 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
Your child needs a Social Security number in order to be claimed as a dependent on a tax return,

Which did not used to be the case, ever, up until recent history of this country.

1,557 posted on 05/09/2006 10:07:28 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: HappyFeet
http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?pid=166


This Chris Simcox?
1,558 posted on 05/09/2006 10:07:39 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Howlin

For cryin' out loud. How would it be a threat? How?

Sheesh.

She said she was putting DOWN the remarks of the other poster.

So I pictured her in a high place, where she assumes she is, and that was the image that emerged.

Go for it, Howlin.


1,559 posted on 05/09/2006 10:07:51 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: kstewskis

WOO-HOO!
Ready for Mahoney are you?


1,560 posted on 05/09/2006 10:07:52 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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