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To: the Real fifi; Fedora; Howlin; ravingnutter; piasa; Peach; Grampa Dave; pinz-n-needlez; ...
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030707/dreyfuss

[JUNE 19, 2003]: "Says a former US ambassador with strong links to the CIA: "There was certainly information coming from the Iraqi exile community, including Chalabi--who was detested by the CIA and by the State Department--saying, 'They will welcome you with open arms.'"

WOW, and this article from lefty socialist rag "The Nation" was posted on June 19, 2003!!! It sure sounds like Joe Wilson was talking to them BEFORE June 19, 2003 and had used his wife's CIA employment to burnish his credentials. This writer should be subpoenaed in the Libby case, along with David Corn. Nicholas Kristof, Walter Pincus, Robert Dreyfuss, David Corn, and other journalists such as the unnamed Guardian writer probably ALL knew in May-June 2003, from Joe Wilson himself, something of Valerie Pflame's employment with the CIA. Joe Wilson was not exactly a model of discretion and sound judgment!!

Remember that David Corn of "The Nation" is the one who began flogging the fanciful 'revenge' conspiracy theory against the WH immediately after the Novak article. Then Joe Wilson received some passionate tribute and award at a dinner sponsored by "The Nation" later that fall.
6 posted on 05/08/2006 10:35:33 AM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Enchante

Another person is working on what promises to be a well-researched piece showing how it was Wilson who suggested to reporters that what the WH was saying to refute him was a Vengeance outing of his wife. In other words, he first told them his wife worked at the agency on wmd's and then "interpreted" innocuous comments from the WH as proof of the plot against him.

There is evidence in Libby's last pleadings, for example, that NBC, Mitchell (who worked for Russert), Time and Miller and the NYT had all been talking to Wilson before the reporters contacted the WH and in Cooper's case the evidence is that his co-author, Calabresi, talked to Wilson just before and just after Cooper's call to Libby.


8 posted on 05/08/2006 10:41:12 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Enchante; Fedora; the Real fifi; kcvl; Lancey Howard; Howlin

Tracking back:


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/4/121656.shtml

Sunday, Dec. 4, 2005 12:13 p.m. EST

Joe Wilson: Bush Right to Attack Iraq


Joe Wilson, Iraq war supporter?

The darling of the anti-war left may be working overtime to bring down the Bush administration for "outing" his CIA wife, but Wilson said Saturday that the White House was right to go to war over Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

"There was a lot of reason to be concerned about weapons of mass destruction in the hands of Saddam Hussein," he told WABC Radio's Mark Simone. "I always thought that he probably had chemical and biological weapons and biological precursors as well."

Wilson said his primary policy difference with President Bush wasn't over Saddam's WMDs, but rather on the question of "how to construct a policy that gets to the national security issue of disarming Saddam Hussein and does so at minimum risk to other legitimate U.S. interests both in Iraq and in the region."


But aside from that, Wilson said he cheered President Bush's decision to topple the Iraqi dictator, telling Simone: "When the president went up to the U.N. and got the [war] resolution unanimously passed at the U.N., nobody applauded louder than I did."


13 posted on 05/08/2006 11:21:36 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: Enchante
"It sure sounds like Joe Wilson was talking to them BEFORE June 19, 2003 and had used his wife's CIA employment to burnish his credentials."
Hopefully Scooter's defense council will be able to make enough hard points on this issue to get him off the hook, soon. It is hard to believe JW was not a real chatter box with all we continue to see surface. If the L/MSM are forced to start admitting Wilson and Plame where co-conspirators with some now or to be fired CIA officials, perhaps the case against Libby will be dropped, with some under the table deals going down.
14 posted on 05/08/2006 12:07:06 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Enchante
Even some of the moonbats are questioning David Corn's timing and information:

Clifford May's article, Who Exposed Secret Agent Plame?published in National Review online, July 15th 2005, makes a strong case that, while Novak was the first person to expose "Wilson's wife", Corn is actually the journalist responsible for first publishing Plame's undercover/covert status:

"This just in: Bob Novak did not reveal that Valerie Plame was an undercover agent for the CIA. Read— or reread — his column from July 14, 2003. All Novak reports is that the wife of former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson is 'an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction'...

So if Novak did not reveal that Valerie Plame was a secret agent, who did? The evidence strongly suggests it was none other than Joe Wilson himself. Let me walk you through the steps that lead to this conclusion.

The first reference to Plame being a secret agent appears in The Nation, in an article by DC published July 16, 2003, just two days after Novak’s column appeared. It carried this lead: 'Did Bush officials blow the cover of a U.S. intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security — and break the law — in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others?'

On what basis could Corn 'assume' that Plame was not only working covertly but was actually a 'top-secret' operative? And where did Corn get the idea that Plame had been 'outed' in order to punish Wilson? That is not suggested by anything in the Novak column...

The likely answer: The allegation that someone in the administration leaked to Novak as a way to punish Wilson was made by Wilson — to Corn. But Corn, rather than quote Wilson, puts the idea forward as his own.

Corn’s article then goes on to provide specific details about Plame’s undercover work, her 'dicey and difficult mission of tracking parties trying to buy or sell weapons of mass destruction or WMD material.' But how does Corn know about that? From what source could he have learned it?"

Since Novak did not report that Plame was 'working covertly' how did Corn know that’s what she had been doing? Corn follows that assertion with a quote from Wilson saying, 'I will not answer questions about my wife.' Any reporter worth his salt would immediately wonder: Did Wilson indeed answer Corn’s questions about his wife — after Corn agreed not to quote his answers but to use them only on background? Read the rest of Corn’s piece and it’s difficult to believe anything else. Corn names no other sources for the information he provides — and he provides much more information than Novak revealed...

Source
15 posted on 05/08/2006 12:16:46 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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