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Immigrants and Wages(More proof that illegals drive down the wage scale.)
The Washington Times ^ | May 8, 2006 | Alan Tonelson

Posted on 05/08/2006 9:59:34 AM PDT by kellynla

Ever since President Bush unveiled his first guest worker plans early in his first term, employer claims of labor shortages have dominated the economic side of the national immigration debate. Without an ever-greater inflow of immigrants, representatives of numerous industries have warned, their sectors literally will run out of workers. Indeed, these business leaders insist, U.S. immigration policy has been so restrictive they have been forced to hire illegal immigrants to stay in business and thereby keep the economy growing.

These views, and related calls to open U.S. borders wider, have been reinforced by much of the conventional wisdom surrounding the American economy. The native-born population's birthrate is relatively low and consequently this population is aging and stabilizing. Moreover, as President Bush and his allies keep repeating, legal and illegal immigrants alike are mainly doing "the jobs Americans won't do" -- physically demanding labor in low-paying but essential industries.

Yet the most important statistics available show conclusively that, far from easing shortages, illegal immigrants are adding to labor gluts in America. Specifically, wages in sectors highly dependent on illegals, when adjusted for inflation, are either stagnant or have actually fallen.

Both textbook economics and common sense teach that wages are a surefire measure of labor market abundance or shortage. When labor is genuinely scarce, and too many employers are chasing too few workers, businesses typically bid wages up in the competition to fill jobs.

When too many workers are chasing too few jobs, employers typically cut wages, confident that beggars can't be choosers. Labor Department data reveal that the wage-cutting scenario is exactly what has unfolded recently throughout the economy's illegal immigrant-heavy sectors.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; wages
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"Examining more closely the pattern within the 2000-2005 period provides compelling evidence illegal immigrants have been used deliberately to force down wages"
1 posted on 05/08/2006 9:59:38 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: HiJinx

ping


2 posted on 05/08/2006 10:00:03 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
Urging Congress to loosen immigration controls, Marriott International Chairman J.W. Marriott Jr. insists the hospitality industry "needed a supply of immigrant workers to fill jobs" and condemned those "in Congress [who] want to criminalize the undocumented and their employers."

If you admit to the whole world you employ illegals, you should be ready to have ICE swarm your Marriotts until the cows come home.

But, it wll never happen.
3 posted on 05/08/2006 10:04:19 AM PDT by stylin19a (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: kellynla

But, but who will do the jobs that Americans won't do for $2 per hour under the table?


4 posted on 05/08/2006 10:06:08 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
$2 per hour under the table?

I'll need to see some kind of evidence that those jobs even exist before I start wondering who does them.
5 posted on 05/08/2006 10:10:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Realism

awe come on now, you don't know any out of work American teenagers who need a job. they have such a good work ethic to begin with... :D /s


6 posted on 05/08/2006 10:11:15 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kellynla

It's amazing basic supply and demand principles need to be reiterated.


7 posted on 05/08/2006 10:11:44 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: kinoxi

Whats with hispanic illegal and legal immigrants and litter? Is this a phenomenom limited to Hispanics or all immigrant communities? I dont remember if the Irish or italians lived in filth. I only ask because San Jose gets dirtier by the day. Today's deep question.


8 posted on 05/08/2006 10:14:57 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: samadams2000

apparently they're creating the need for more illegals to clean up after them, it's in the handbook ya know ;)


9 posted on 05/08/2006 10:17:10 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

I know its a provacative question but its the elephant in the living room..CLEAN UP YOUR MESSES!


10 posted on 05/08/2006 10:20:03 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


11 posted on 05/08/2006 10:20:15 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: samadams2000

The answer is simple, look at Mexico.


12 posted on 05/08/2006 10:20:51 AM PDT by sheana
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To: kellynla

Of course! And then when one of them gets hurt on the job, you can just throw them away like trash and hire a new one. Of course, mister and misses taxpayer will pay for the former injured illegal alien employee's health bill when they go to the ER. Perfect out of whack black market for labor, just like any third world country or slave-master society.


13 posted on 05/08/2006 10:23:02 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: samadams2000

Greenies..........Sheesh.


14 posted on 05/08/2006 10:24:10 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: samadams2000
it's a statement of unfortunate reality. if any of them them had any respect for this nation or it's laws they would be immigrants just like my ancestors. no wonder they trash a place they do not respect. as far as i'm concerned trespassers should be shot on sight at the border. fix this s*** overnight.
15 posted on 05/08/2006 10:25:15 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: KC_Conspirator

A separate set of rules for business and lowly consumers. If the business claims the cost is too high they break the law and get workers from across the border.

If the cost of medicine is too high, it's tough noogines for the lowly consumer. He better not get caught getting cheaper meds in Canada.


16 posted on 05/08/2006 10:26:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: sheana

Friend of ours recently sold their house in a Mexican area here in town and moved over to Pismo Beach. He was here this morning and went by the house. He said they have someone living in the Tuff shed (a large one) that is beside the house and someone else living in the workshop that is behind and attached to the detached garage.

Our code enforcement here doesn't care.


17 posted on 05/08/2006 10:27:21 AM PDT by sheana
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To: kinoxi
you don't know any out of work American teenagers who need a job.

Nope, their parents usually take care of all their needs and wants.

18 posted on 05/08/2006 10:28:02 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: samadams2000

To bad CalTrans can't drive by Home Depot and pick up a crew to clean up the 280/880 interchange. That would be $2 an hour well spent.

/S


19 posted on 05/08/2006 10:28:30 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: kellynla

Falling inflation adjusted real wages goes along ways towards explaining why President Bush is having the unprecedented problem of his popularity swirling downwards in the toilet in a booming economy. It's hard to get enthusiastic about abstract growth numbers when your standard of living is falling. Significant numbers of Americans are living worse under Bush and I won't be surprised if they look elsewhere besides Republicans for a fix.


20 posted on 05/08/2006 10:28:54 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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