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To: LexBaird

I guess you don't believe that the sublimation of the animal instincts, the sex drive, for example, can result in creativity. Artists, not only of the Nietzschean ilk, believe this to be true -- as well, boxers and athletes also attest to how this drive can be channeled toward different ends.

What do you think of the surrealists who see and draw upon the connection between the unconscious and their art? The language of dreams totally pervades their art. As well, if creativity is a necessary component of free will, why can't we turn it on at will, like a light switch. Why do artists have writers block for years? Artists may try to get into "the zone" but it is not always a question of will. The tricks that enable don't always work on demand. Many times it's a question of waiting and/or forgetting and then something may come. But not always.

If I can anticipate your reply, in part, you believe that the good ones can easily enter the zone. But there were many good writers and artists who felt stymied for years, felt frustrated that they had nothing important to say.


140 posted on 05/12/2006 4:49:51 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Blind Eye Jones
I guess you don't believe that the sublimation of the animal instincts, the sex drive, for example, can result in creativity. Artists, not only of the Nietzschean ilk, believe this to be true -- as well, boxers and athletes also attest to how this drive can be channeled toward different ends.

It's a conscious decision to do the channeling. Rage, love, passion sex drive, etc. may be employed as a fuel. Emotions are not in themselves creative.

What do you think of the surrealists who see and draw upon the connection between the unconscious and their art? The language of dreams totally pervades their art.

A key phrase here: the language of dreams. Language denotes communication and dreams are an universal human condition. A surrealist like Magritte is bringing that universal dream language into his dialog with his audience, but his constructs are the work of his conscious mind.

As well, if creativity is a necessary component of free will, why can't we turn it on at will, like a light switch

You can, as any human not in a vegetative state can. When you decide what words you use to reply to me, you are creating. That does not mean you can force it into unaccustomed pathways at will. That takes the all too familiar creative struggle. I think "writer's block" occurs when a previously productive pathway plays itself out or the emotional fuel is exhausted. Maybe that's what happened to Rothko. His pathway became repetitive and his solution was to pour ever increasing amounts of rage into the path, with ever diminishing return.

142 posted on 05/12/2006 5:39:33 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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