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To: cva66snipe
cva66snipe wrote:
Right now many Dems are talking to the right of Bush especially on immigration. The RNC and GOP leadership however is not. When liberals like Ed Koch are saying send them home and build a wall and our POTUS is pandering to Clinton Buddies on the issue like Tyson Foods etc then I see a major problem.

Comment:

I don't doubt that many Democrats are talking to the right of President Bush.

However, that is the problem I see with most Democrat politicians.

These guys you speak of, talk conservative or moderate, make promises, then get into office and like Hillary, Nancy and others go back to their anti-traditional American liberal ways.

They also appoint judges that allow for the further distortion and corruption of the country as we have known it over the years.

I said there is not a current Democrat candidate worth running for office.

I didn't say there were not lower echelon people in the party who would make a decent politician except for one giant reason.

The leadership of the Democrat party is as sorry as Bat Sh!t and will not or can not change in the immediate future.

I make my judgments on Howard Dean, George Soros and the whole bunch of extremist radical hooligans posing as leaders.

These guys through manipulation of party members with big money and threats make sure straight thinking Democrats do not stray far off the plantation.

The Senator from Colorado Ken Salazar comes to mind when talking one story (lying) before the election saying he was a moderate willing to work with the other side and doing his parties obstructionist liberal bidding after he is sworn in.

You said:

I take the time to see what the other candidates are saying.

COMMENT:

Well I am glad that you do take the time to take into consideration what candidates are voicing.

Many Americans blindly vote the party line, with out the understanding of how the politician they are voting for will affect their futures.

This is especially prevalent with those voters still mired on the Plantation.

I understand that we have people in this party who blindly vote for candidate with out consideration of the candidate’s views.


However, my support for Bush differs from the blind support Democrats give to their plantation masters.

I am pointing out that a current Democrat leader in power at this time will quite possibly be the down fall of this great nation.

This is due to the influence of the party’s current radical leadership that I previously referenced.

You said:

Right and if Hillary tomorrow morning changed parties you'd be in here swearing she was the best thing for the GOP since Abe Lincoln.

Comment:

Why not read up on Abe Lincoln and see whether or not as some historians are saying that Lincoln was a bigger offender of the constitution than Bush.

You said:

The Liberal DEMs and the LIBERAL Republicans are one and the same.

COMMENT:

No the liberal Dems and the Liberal Republicans are not the same.

There is a fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats and that has to do with the protection of American traditions and the belief that God is an inherent part of our basis for being who we are and why we are such a great nation.

You said:

To achieve change Conservatives must be elected and the Liberals rejected. The problem is you think the letter R automatically means Conservative.

COMMENT:

I never referenced that the letter R stood for conservative.

To me the letter “R” stands for a CHANCE to turn this nation around.

A chance that most any current elected Democrat will surely take away from those who love America.
889 posted on 05/07/2006 11:39:18 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: OKIEDOC
I don't doubt that many Democrats are talking to the right of President Bush. However, that is the problem I see with most Democrat politicians. These guys you speak of, talk conservative or moderate, make promises, then get into office and like Hillary, Nancy and others go back to their anti-traditional American liberal ways. They also appoint judges that allow for the further distortion and corruption of the country as we have known it over the years.

They will likely be elected because they do talk to the right of the GOP. The GOP can not afford to go any further left or the United States will soon be a third world status nation. I watched Al Gore nearly defeat Bush in 2000 doing so. Republicans forget it was Bush's policy that got him in office in 2000 it was Gore being tainted. An untainted by Clinton Gore would have won by a landslide. Slick Wille beat Dole running right of him in 1996. Historically when the GOP runs conservative which it has not actually done since 1994 it wins with good margins. We lost the senate one during this time remember? It was 2000 wasn't it? I think Bush running left had a lot to do with it. The conservative DEMs which the GOP also ignores either stayed home or voted Gore.

In 2000 in here I wrote Gore would not be easy to defeat and could possibly win. I understand Gore politics because I remember his Daddy.

The leadership of the Democrat party is as sorry as Bat Sh!t and will not or can not change in the immediate future. I make my judgments on Howard Dean, George Soros and the whole bunch of extremist radical hooligans posing as leaders. These guys through manipulation of party members with big money and threats make sure straight thinking Democrats do not stray far off the plantation.

The GOP is not any better in that respect. They use fear to bully the voters rather than actually take firm policy stands OPPOSITE of the DEMs and stick to it win or loose. Howard Dean=John McCain. McCain is every bit as looney tunes as Dean and as every bit as extreme. There are many of the same Big Money that pushed Clinton also pushing Liberals in the GOP including Bush. Tell me why hasn't Tyson Foods been raided by Immigration? Follow the money. Instead it was a container company.

Why not read up on Abe Lincoln and see whether or not as some historians are saying that Lincoln was a bigger offender of the constitution than Bush.

I think you didn't catch my point on Lincoln. He tossed states rights and the Civil War was not about slavery it was about the Union imposing the government over the rights of the states. Lincoln shredded it much like Republicans of today. I'm not that worried about the office of POTUS because I understand the Voice of the People {Congress} is the problem. Right now a strong minority of Tancredo & Paul type of conservatives would stop the Liberals from the GOP & DEMs in their tracks. It worked for the GOP for 50 years.

No the liberal Dems and the Liberal Republicans are not the same. There is a fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats and that has to do with the protection of American traditions and the belief that God is an inherent part of our basis for being who we are and why we are such a great nation.

Nope a liberal is a liberal. Painting a zebra doesn't make it a Tennessee Walking Horse. Liberals in the GOP don't care about American values one iota. Values to them are bargaining chip. BTW churches and Christian programs that signed on to the Faith Based Programs just gave the devil a voice in their churches. It was a very bad idea the fed giving money to churches and faith based programs that use religious principle and teachings for their success.

You see what the government pays for it controls. Right now we have churches being censored by the United States Post Office because they use NPO status for lower rates. If the USPS doesn't agree with the message bye bye privilege. How long now since churches take Cesar's money will it be before Cesar dictates the sermons on Sunday and forces hiring of gays as preachers etc? A very, very, bad idea that many said was good because Bush had a brain passage of gas.

I want the government out of as much of our lives as possible. I loathe the idea of such nonsense as the Department of Homeland Security, The Patriot Act, The McCain campaign reform to name a few. They were not needed and it is abuse of powers. I resent our POTUS using the attack on 9/11 to push for his precious Fast Track Trade Authority. That cheapened the seriousness of that attack and had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

I resent his pandering to questionable foreign leaders in the name of so called Free Trade. I resent a Communist Christian Killing Dictator Thug being given a full honor welcome at OUR White House. Many in here were upset because precious Bush's Chicom friend was told the truth by a woman Doctor who very well knew it. She had a hell of a lot more courage that day than our leaders in Washington ,DC and a hell of a lot more character too. I resent seeing our aircraft carriers tied up at piers in the UAE. I say that as a Navy Vet who has a good understanding of what it takes to get a carrier underway that berths pier side and the quickness anchoring off the coast allows. It is a difference between less than 5 minutes or more than 2 hours. I know I have seen a carrier get underway anchored in less than 5 minutes and out of the harbor within 15 minutes.

I am disturbed that we have a WOT and yet our government could not get those responsible for the COLE Bombing. Instead of being in U.S. custody facing a military tribunals they escaped a Yemen so called prison.

I am disturbed that our leaders are cutting deals with foreign nations to run plants that provide for our defense needs such as plane parts. This is what the GOP has done. How can it get much worse? Where were the conservatives? Split in half!!!! Some thinking party line should be honored and the remaining ones left hanging out to dry by Bush and the other liberals. Do you not yet understand nothing stands in the way of Bush trade policy? It always has been the driving force of his policies.

He is getting us deeper and deeper into usually one sided trade agreements {such as China} and surrendering our national sovereignty to other nations. Not so long ago letting other nations of questionable repute have military secrets was called treason.

I did not like it when Clintons family did business with the government of China and I don't like the Bush family doing it either. China is not our friend. But when has a nation wishing our nation to fall ever stopped a Bush when it comes to trade?

892 posted on 05/08/2006 4:16:16 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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