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To: cva66snipe

Your position is well stated, but I consider you part of the problem, not part of the solution. Your willingness to maintain a minority position and give up on the Republican Party is included in my definition of insanity, politically speaking.

You will end up with about as much power as the Communists. You simply don't have a clue - you are the one that will end up pounding sand.


775 posted on 05/07/2006 9:52:27 AM PDT by Sonora
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To: Sonora
You will end up with about as much power as the Communists.

The way the Republicans are acting, that's going to end up happening either way unless something is done to turn things around. And there's nothing like tough love to help accomplish that.

Why do you think Bush has finally gotten around to making a veto threat against the pork in the spending bill currently before Congress? Is it because he's seen the light after all this time? I seriously hope you're not naive enough to believe that. It's because he responds to pressure from his base.

779 posted on 05/07/2006 12:32:20 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Sonora
Your position is well stated, but I consider you part of the problem, not part of the solution. Your willingness to maintain a minority position and give up on the Republican Party is included in my definition of insanity, politically speaking. You will end up with about as much power as the Communists. You simply don't have a clue - you are the one that will end up pounding sand.

History backs me up though. We went how long 50 years with the DEMs in power? What happened? Were we over taken by the Soviets? Was the nation anywhere near on the brink of socialism that it is today? No. Why? Because The Conservatives fought the fight as the minority. Actually they were the majority IF you leave party name out of it. Conservatism gained so much ground in the late 70's - mid 1990's that it took control of both houses.

Now you would think the GOP would use that to undo some of the negative aspects of LBJ's Great Society. Instead it became an enabler to it and George W Bush as POTUS on social programs has became LBJ-2. The GOP in mid 1996 as it is todays is literally obsessed at retaining both houses at all cost and that is the problem. Remember Bob Dole ran Liberal and lost. Had Gore not been tainted so would have Bush and by a wide margin too. Bush & Gore are too much alike politically is the problem. As for the GOP leadership? They will do any compromise that they believe will win them Liberal support even at the expenses of selling out their own base.

The fear of the DEMs in this forum is utterly ridiculous it has long passed the point of simply being a reasonable concern about liberals. In doing so they toss aside DEMs who may well be far more Conservative than the Rockefeller Republicans. I like my DEM governor much better than my last one who was a two termer Republican. The GOP will have a very difficult time defeating him. If the GOP runs another Don Sundquist as it's candidate I'll vote for the current Dem no question about it. Right now he is the conservatives friend and the Liberals worse nightmare. He is far more conservative than the previous one although I disagree with him on issues like education.

He took the state out of a budget crisis and brought Hillary Care into accountability. The Rockefeller Republican we had before him simply kept trying to pass a state income tax and was bankrupting the state budget.

Fear the DEMs above all else is being used as a manipulation means of promoting fear to get bad Republicans reelected. It only does the GOP & the nation great harm to let it flourish. When we have persons posting Orrin Hatch would make a great USSC Justice it shows a very varied GOP base with this forum as well. Forget the parties and take each candidate on their own personal merit. If they represent your views support them and vote for them. Forget the party name it means nothing anymore anyway and I do mean that. D&R after names now is simply a selling tool for the sheeple to be herded by from party tyrants and nothing else.

If people want Conservative Constitution abiding leaders then they need to vote for only such leaders and toss others out of office. In the long run even within an election cycle or two positive change will be the result of it. That is the solution the framers gave us. To do less enables tyranny to rule the nation by enabling it.

780 posted on 05/07/2006 1:00:32 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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