[Txsleuth]

I think the freepers that infiltrate every thread with their "close the borders" stuff are the whiners, do you do that?

[jdm]

"freepers that infiltrate every thread with their "close the borders" stuff are the whiners"

Wanting security makes someone a whiner? If someone demanded you leave your front door open/unlocked at night, every night, would you "whine"? Of course you would, and rightly so.