Considering McCain is more of a conservative than the alternative, I'd vote for him against ANY Democrat. Sure he's off the plantation on a number of things, but WOT, abortion and a few other key issues, he's a lot saner than any DUmmie.
Or ANY Third Party candidate.
Third parties simply take too long to get together enough political power in our current times for a new one to arise with the support on the state and congressional level to mean anything. I'm 40 years old, I can't afford to wait till I'm dead for a new "conservative" party to arise and have the country flushed down the tubes by the democrats.
Me too, but it sure would be unpleasant. I truly hope it doesn't come to that.
Nothing, absolutely nothing on Earth would ever get me to vote for that evil, vile despicable man. If McCain was President, in four years our Republic would be so screwed that Republicans at all levels would be voted out of office. Those who cherish Liberty should go on record as stating that they would never vote for McCain. The powers that be should realize many of us will NOT hold our nose and vote for this disgusting person, because of who runs against him. I will gladly sit out this election. Our party can survive Hillary, it cannot survive a McCain Presidency. He in a very unstable, bitter and vile man. It would be quite dangerous to have him in charge (I know the same can be said of Hillary, but I think she will be defeated)
Third Parties are a waste of time in the National arena. They are more useful in affecting local politics, where third party candidates in sufficient numbers will force the two bigger parties to examine and adopt parts of the third party platform in order to co-opt the voter base for the third party.
We've seen how national third parties affect elections. In the 1990s, we lost to Clinton twice because of Ross Perot. In 2000, we won narrowly by virtue of Ralph Nader. In 2004, Ralph Nader wasn't even on the radar.
My amateur analysis is that we should be very careful at the national level when dealing with third parties. If you vote for a third party on the national level, you usually get the opposite of what you wanted, and the lag time between elections ensures that any lessons you thought you were teaching to your Republican, former representative will be lost in the struggle to oust the liberal, because by then the only lesson learned is that even a RINO is better than a Liberal.
This isn't directed at you DW. I just thought I'd ride your post and tack on my 2 cents.
We have a problem with career politicians in elected office. Our guys look weak because they're exactly that and not ideological brethren. The Left has an advantage over us, in that they've somehow managed to get ideological liberals elected. In any battle, the side that believes in itself the most has the advantage of being willing to go to extreme lengths to achieve their goals. We've seen this with the Liberal Left with great dismay. We have yet to see large numbers of Republicans willing to put their jobs on the line in favor of advancing the conservative agenda.
If we want to teach our national leaders a lesson, we need to start by building up the smaller third parties at the local level. Electing responsible, conservative local representatives will also be the most effective way of controlling the effect of government in our lives. We live in a Federal republic. If this were France, the focus on the national level would be justified, but this is the United States, and the best way to reign in the Federal Government is to elect conservative State and local governments. However, if an opportunity arises to select conservatives in the upcoming primaries for national seats, do you best to help, but not at the cost of handing a seat over to the Democrats.
We seem to have a shortage of ethical people willing to stand up to the scrutiny and hostility of a liberal press. There is only so much vilification a good person can take before deciding the prize isn't worth it. If ever there was a RICO qualified scam taking place, it is the media's use of free speech to dishonestly destroy candidates they don't like, only to have those stories revealed as false or unprovable at a later date. Intimidation is how our enemies operate, be they Al Qaeda, or Democrats. Accurate, timely, and accessible information is the key to defeating both.
Ah well, enough is enough... Time for bed.
I know EXACTLY how you feel. I'm almost 60, I voted R for 35 years and watched America slip and slide into the sad state we are in today because of RINO's and a dysfunctional RNC. I feel stupid that I didn't start supporting a third party when I was your age.
Right now we have these free trade agreements, GATT, NAFTA, & CAFTA. What are they? They are sovereignty destructive tools designed by the CFR and the UN that have removed 90% of our heavy manufacturing from CONUS and redistributed the plants around the world into third world countries that benefit only international EU companies. I have watched thousands of American companies smoothly sold to foreign ownerships with the jobs outsourced from our soil.
The last thing Bush wants is secure borders because of the last trade agreement which opens the entire continent to free trade. The Agenda 21 Plan is about balancing the population across the entire continent and balancing national economies. There isn't a word in their about US national sovereignty.
I have watched our once secure ports and shipping industries decimated by the Bush1 and Bush2 administrations. The Chinese have more control over what is shipped to America than the American citizens do.
The national deficit is over 8 TRILLION dollars, the price of transportation has been steadily rising at the hands of sleazy bastards who think a dollar is more important than national security. Do you realize how shaky our entire airline industry is today because of rising fuel costs?
Yet we have billions of gallons of oil under our own topsoil that this administration is wimping along saying they want to drill for. Like hell they do. When was the last refinery built on American soil? Thirty years ago or longer? Strengthening American industry is not what this administration is working for. They are working for the exact opposite!
Bringing in 30 million people with an average IQ score of 85 is not what one does to build strong nations. Bringing in people who have no desire to assimilate, just steal and plunder from the citizens isn't what the Presidential oath is about.
It is time that you do some real deep thinking about helping to design and build a strong third party that uses our Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution as the base documents instead of the Communist Manifesto.
[. . .Communism is not the absence of capitalism, it is state capitalism where the elite, those who run the state, are the only capitalists and the rest of the people are the capital, i.e. slaves. Under our system, I have a chance to be a capitalist by having a small business and running it. Under theirs, they run me. Communism is nothing more than a gigantic state-run slave plantation.]
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
Enough, you are intelligent, do your own clear minded research and you'll see we are being dragged down by the two political parties we now have.
DUBAI CO. TAKES OVER 9 US MILITARY FACILITIES
Do we have the Progressive Republicans in office today? These buggers are more than just your average Quislings!