[WestVirginiaRebel]

Superman: The Animated Series and Justice League were much more respectful of Luthor as a real bad guy. Batman Begins showed that you can do an origin story and get it right. Spacey aside, hopefully this won't suck as much as Superman III and IV did.

[The Foolkiller]

Superman: The Animated Series and Justice League were much more respectful of Luthor as a real bad guy. Batman Begins showed that you can do an origin story and get it right. Spacey aside, hopefully this won't suck as much as Superman III and IV did.

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Yeah, I knew a guy once that was as big a movie buff as I am. He said back in the late 80's, "about all you can really hope for when you go see a movie any more, Dave, is that they won't f*&% it up TOO bad." Sad commentary, but pretty much true these days. And you're right, those cartoons were great, as was Batman the Animated Series, and BATMAN BEGINS had to be the best movie adaptation of a superhero that was ever made, at least to date (and Supe 3 & 4 were among the worst).