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Sun to make Java more Linux-friendly
ZDnet ^ | May 05, 2006 | Martin LaMonica, Special to ZDNet

Posted on 05/05/2006 6:01:08 AM PDT by Salo

URL: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Sun_to_make_Java_more_Linux_friendly/0,2000061733,39255431,00.htm

Sun Microsystems plans to alter its licensing to make it easier to bundle Java Runtime Environment with Linux.

The company will announce the changes and at least one other open-source move at the JavaOne conference later this month, Sun executives said during a press teleconference on Thursday.

Laurie Tolson, a vice president in the Java platform group, said that Sun, which licenses Java to other software companies, has modified the terms to be more favourable to open-source operating systems, specifically Linux and OpenSolaris.

She said the changes affect the Java Runtime Environment (JRE), the software that needs to be loaded on PCs for them to be able to run Java applications. Typically, the JRE is downloaded separately rather than included with an operating system.

"The intention is to make it easier for distributors and developers to get their hands on the runtime with the operating system," Tolson said.

Joe Keller, a vice president of marketing for service-oriented architecture and integration platforms, referred to the change as "JRE already included."

Sun has faced calls several times to open-source Java, which advocates say would foster innovative open-source development.

The company has resisted formally open-sourcing all of the Java software, but it has dramatically changed the development process around Java and changed licenses to make it easier to see Java source code.

JavaOne 2006 may see Sun open-source portions of the Java Enterprise System, company executive Jeff Jackson said. Last year, the Santa Clara, California-based company said it will eventually offer free access to the server software suite. It is currently "looking at everything," said Jackson, who is a senior vice president for Java development and platform engineering.

Another expected announcement at the conference, scheduled to begin May 16 in San Francisco, will cover Java Platform, Enterprise Edition 5. Sun plans to deliver a software development kit for Java EE 5 at JavaOne, executives said. Java EE 5 is the latest upgrade to the Java server standard and was ratified late last month. It is designed to make programming for Java server applications easier.

The creation of the Java EE 5, done via a committee co-chaired by Sun and Oracle, reflected Sun's intention to emulate open-source development processes, company executives said.

"We've done this entire development project with the (Java developer) community in plain sight," Keller said.

One related Sun code-sharing project is GlassFish, announced at last year's edition of JavaOne. The project aims to develop a Java application server based on the Java EE 5 standard, which uses an open-source licence.

Representatives from BEA Systems, Oracle, JBoss and SAP said on Thursday their respective business software companies are in the process of building Java server software based on the new standard. Products are expected to be released over the course of this year and next.

Software based on Java EE 5 will support the Enterprise Java Beans 3.0 standard, which is meant to make it easier to access data from Java programs and write transactional systems.

Java EE 5 has also been tweaked to speed up Web development and creation of Web services. Software based on Java EE 5 will include prebuilt components for building Web applications using the AJAX Web development technique, according to Sun executives.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: java; linux; sun
Damned communists.
1 posted on 05/05/2006 6:01:12 AM PDT by Salo
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To: ShadowAce; N3WBI3; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dominic Harr

Pings.


2 posted on 05/05/2006 6:01:53 AM PDT by Salo
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3 posted on 05/05/2006 6:04:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Salo
Damned communists.

They were forced to do this by an inferior foreign product that no one in their right mind wants anyway.

Oh wait...

4 posted on 05/05/2006 6:05:46 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Salo
In general, I find Sun Java bloated, poorly implemented and slow.
5 posted on 05/05/2006 6:06:39 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ISLAM: The Other Psychosis)
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To: ShadowAce

You left out the part about IBM and the Nazis. :-)


6 posted on 05/05/2006 6:10:01 AM PDT by Salo
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Just a quick note- Java development is now FREE-
The latest update is Drop & Drag for
building apps- you should ask to see a
Demo- they have come along way -since
Their GUI release in mid 2004. I saw a Demo
of web application building with auto hooks to
to Several different databases- it was a
simple Demo - butthe web app was built in
under 5 minutes- purposefully threw in an
error - to show the auto debug/report feature.


7 posted on 05/05/2006 6:43:45 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: Psycho_Bunny
In general, I find Sun Java bloated, poorly implemented and slow.

Those are the rumors. The facts are much different.

8 posted on 05/05/2006 6:45:19 AM PDT by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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To: Salo

What needs to happen is Adobe flash needs to become more linux friendly!


9 posted on 05/05/2006 7:03:13 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Glenn
Those are the rumors. The facts are much different.

I've been stuck on a C++ project for several years now, so I'm a little out of touch -- are you saying that Java itself isn't slow/bloated, or specifically Sun's JRE? The former is a long standing false myth, but the latter was certainly true 4 or 5 years ago when I last used it, as it was specifically intended as a reference implementation for OEMs.

10 posted on 05/05/2006 7:07:06 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: kevkrom
but the latter was certainly true 4 or 5 years ago when I last used it

There have been many incremental improvements to Java, and the programmers using it have creatively implemented a lot of code that really flies, especially in server environments. Most of the programmers who dis it don't understand it or are using it for something it wasn't meant to be used for.

Appropriate application of technology continues to be a good rule to live by.

11 posted on 05/05/2006 7:17:04 AM PDT by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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To: Glenn

But my original question wasn't answered... are you talking about Java in general, or Sun's own JRE? The original poster, I believe, was referring to Sun's implementation, not Java in general.


12 posted on 05/05/2006 7:22:03 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: kevkrom
are you talking about Java in general

Java in general. I use Sun's flavour on most platforms.

13 posted on 05/05/2006 7:24:34 AM PDT by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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To: kevkrom
I find Java fast enough (except maybe startup time on slow machines). Modern JREs have resettable/reusable virtual machines which can boost execution. The bloatedness is tolerable.

Where Java really rocks is in development speed. I found myself plodding through a C++ project much more slowly than I wrote equivalent Java code. Coupled with the free Eclipse, Java development is a joy.

14 posted on 05/05/2006 12:09:12 PM PDT by FrogBurger
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