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Rumsfeld Heckled by Former CIA Analyst (VIPs Ray McGovern)
AP/Yahoo News ^ | 5-4-06 | Shannon McCaffrey

Posted on 05/04/2006 8:36:30 PM PDT by STARWISE

Protesters repeatedly interrupted Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld during a speech Thursday and one man, a former CIA analyst, accused him of lying about Iraq prewar intelligence in an unusually vociferous display of anti-war sentiment.

"Why did you lie to get us into a war that caused these kind of casualties and was not necessary?" asked Ray McGovern, the former analyst, during a question-and-answer session.

"I did not lie," shot back Rumsfeld, who waved off security guards ready to remove McGovern from the hall at the Southern Center for International Studies.

With Iraq war support remaining low, it is not unusual for top Bush administration officials to encounter protests and hostile questions. But the outbursts Rumsfeld confronted on Thursday seemed beyond the usual.

Three protesters were escorted away by security as each interrupted Rumsfeld's speech by jumping up and shouting anti-war messages. Throughout the speech, a fourth protester stood in the middle of the room with his back to Rumsfeld in silent protest. Officials reported no arrests.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; massdestruction; mcgovern; raymcgovern; rumsfeld; vips; weaponsof; wot
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I urge all to see the video and ONE of the ENEMY WITHIN....... Ray McGovern was and IS a despicable human being.

Rummy's statement is totally mischaracterized -- he was composed and calm and said, "1st thing - I did not lie."

But the writer chooses to color the truth:

"I did not lie," shot back Rumsfeld,"

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How he waved off the security guards, stood there totally composed, patiently listening to the McGovern's barbs and yet giving civil responses is beyond me. God bless Rummy!!!


1 posted on 05/04/2006 8:36:33 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

Dude, it's Rummy. He's hardercore than anyone, ever.


2 posted on 05/04/2006 8:38:50 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Gordongekko909

LOL ... they threw away the mold when they cast him. He's one of a kind, God love him.


3 posted on 05/04/2006 8:40:51 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: STARWISE

Heckling the Clintoon Administration would get you an IRS audit.

Or worse.


4 posted on 05/04/2006 8:42:27 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: STARWISE
I have a lot of a respect for Don Rumsfeld. This just shows the type of character this man has to listen to this leftist Moon-bat.
5 posted on 05/04/2006 8:42:47 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Gordongekko909
Hardcore yes, but he was very gracious and polite to this conspirazoid.

Nice to have a REAL man in DC who also behaves like a grownup.
6 posted on 05/04/2006 8:42:52 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: STARWISE

If you're getting flak...
you're over the target.

go Rummy!


7 posted on 05/04/2006 8:43:04 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (So long Danny - gone but not forgotten)
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To: STARWISE

I saw a clip on FNC and reading the article I thought the writer was referring to another incident. Sec Rumsfeld was cool and collected.


8 posted on 05/04/2006 8:44:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: STARWISE
This one time, Jack Bauer and Chuck Norris were about to kill a terrorist because he had hit on Kim Bauer and failed to fall to his knees in supplication at Chuck Norris's beard. Rummy walked up and said, "hey, guys, don't do it yet. He may have some intelligence that is vital to our national security."

The terrorist lived for another thirty hours.

9 posted on 05/04/2006 8:45:00 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: onyx; Laverne; Howlin; Lancey Howard; Enchante; backhoe; Mo1; Peach; Txsleuth; BigSkyFreeper; ...

ENEMY WITHIN .. Ping


10 posted on 05/04/2006 8:45:21 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: roses of sharon
Nice to have a REAL man in DC who also behaves like a grownup.

Precisely. Hardcore.

11 posted on 05/04/2006 8:45:38 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: STARWISE

Stories like this always help our side. Hope it gets lots of publicity. Lunatics just can't fake being normal.


12 posted on 05/04/2006 8:46:21 PM PDT by speedy
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To: STARWISE

Right On!


13 posted on 05/04/2006 8:46:32 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: martin_fierro
Heckling the Clintoon Administration would get you an IRS audit.

Man you just don't know how true that is. You just don't know.

14 posted on 05/04/2006 8:48:03 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Gordongekko909

"If you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons?

He's already demonstrated a willingness to use these weapons.

He poison-gassed his own people.

He used poison gas and other weapons of mass destruction against his neighbors.

This man has no compunction about killing lots and lots of people...."


-- Al Gore, Dec. 16, 1998


15 posted on 05/04/2006 8:49:35 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: STARWISE

Another example of why the CIA needs a major house cleaning.


16 posted on 05/04/2006 8:49:56 PM PDT by DB (©)
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I wonder if this is a new DNC strategy....to send out at least one of these wackos to every event...and try to disrupt and ask dumb questions???

We know that McGovern is working closely with Conyers and the "impeach Bush" group...so I am sure it is all planned.


17 posted on 05/04/2006 8:50:03 PM PDT by Txsleuth (...)
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To: STARWISE

ex-CIA Ray McGovern proves once again, the CIA makes mistakes.


18 posted on 05/04/2006 8:53:15 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: STARWISE

Here is what Rumsfeld said in an interview on March 30, 2003.

"MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: 'And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?'"

SEC. RUMSFELD: 'Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.'"

In the same interview:
"MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: 'Do you think we'll still be fighting in Iraq six months from now?'

SEC. RUMSFELD: 'Oh, goodness, you know, I've never -- we've never had a timetable. We've always said it could be days, weeks, or months and we don't know. And I don't think you need a timetable. What you really need to know is it's going to end and it's going to end with the Iraqi people liberated and that regime will be gone.'"

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/t03302003_t0330sdabcsteph.html

Rumsfeld told a lie. The evidence for weapons of mass destruction was mixed, and Rumsfeld claimed certainty, and it tripped him up. He should have been honest and said that we couldn't afford to be uncertain about Iraq's capabilities given Saddam's abominable dictatorship.

The second quote was either designed to mislead Americans or he didn't have a clue about how long it would take, but he chose to guess again, instead of simply saying "We don't know."

I've been very critical of Rumsfeld's performance for a long time. I think President Bush is making a big mistake in keeping Rumsfeld, and our troops and innocent Iraqis are paying the price. It is possible to be loyal to a fault.


19 posted on 05/04/2006 8:53:34 PM PDT by edweena
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To: STARWISE

And them McGovern spends time with Anderson Cooper and little Tucker Carlson. Does anyone believe CNN and MSNBC did not have advance warning of this man's plan? Does anyone believe he wasn't vetted and groomed for this? Does anyone still believe that CNN and MSNBC do not have an agenda? If so, you are probably a voter in Mass., RI, NJ, or NY.


20 posted on 05/04/2006 8:53:36 PM PDT by mort56
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