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To: seanmerc
Then wouldn't the answer be: there is no such thing as a "Christ-killer"?
89 posted on 05/04/2006 12:15:33 PM PDT by NYCynic
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To: NYCynic

Depends on which sense you're referring to. Did anybody force Him to lay down His life? No. Did somebody commit the physical act of killing Him? Yes.

Judas betrayed Him.
The Jewish leaders had Him arrested and put Him through six illegal trials.
Pontius Pilate, knowing that Jesus had done no wrong, acceded to mob rule, had Jesus scourged almost to the point of death, allowed Jesus to suffer His cruel fate and released a murderous insurrectionist instead.
The soldiers actually scourged Him (on Pilate's orders).
Other soldiers drove nails through His hands and feet and gambled for His clothing.
Yes, there were people who committed the physical acts.


92 posted on 05/04/2006 12:39:31 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: NYCynic

Depends on which sense you're referring to. Did anybody force Him to lay down His life? No. Did somebody commit the physical act of killing Him? Yes.

Judas betrayed Him.
The Jewish leaders had Him arrested and put Him through six illegal trials.
Pontius Pilate, knowing that Jesus had done no wrong, acceded to mob rule, had Jesus scourged almost to the point of death, allowed Jesus to suffer His cruel fate and released a murderous insurrectionist instead.
The soldiers actually scourged Him (on Pilate's orders).
Other soldiers drove nails through His hands and feet and gambled for His clothing.
Yes, there were people who committed the physical acts.

The more important issue is why He did this for us.


94 posted on 05/04/2006 12:45:40 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: NYCynic

Depends on which sense you're referring to. Did anybody force Him to lay down His life? No. Did somebody commit the physical act of killing Him? Yes.

Judas betrayed Him.
The Jewish leaders had Him arrested and put Him through six illegal trials.
Pontius Pilate, knowing that Jesus had done no wrong, acceded to mob rule, had Jesus scourged almost to the point of death, allowed Jesus to suffer His cruel fate and released a murderous insurrectionist instead.
The soldiers actually scourged Him (on Pilate's orders).
Other soldiers drove nails through His hands and feet and gambled for His clothing.
Yes, there were people who committed the physical acts.

The more important issue is why He did this for us.

Despite the title of this thread, Judas couldn't even save himself.


96 posted on 05/04/2006 12:50:22 PM PDT by seanmerc
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