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Republicans Shouldn't Run Away from Bush
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 5/3/06 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/04/2006 8:59:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

RUSH: There are Republicans planning to abandon George W. Bush in droves, particularly during this election year. Bush has had it, a 36%, 33% approval rating. The guy's an albatross around their neck. "We've got to get out of there! We don't want Bush doing anything but raising money for this," blah, blah, blah, blah. There's precedent for this. By the way, a couple of pollsters saying it's a bad move for the Republicans. You know, Republicans, I'll just give you some advice right now. All of you Republicans in Congress -- including you, Chuck Hagel and Olympia Snowe and all the rest of them, McCain -- you want to win reelection in this year, if you're up?

You want the Republicans to hold the House? Unify behind George W. Bush. Just do it. Just do it. Don't try to please moderate or Democrat voters by showing your independence. Just go out there and unify and support the president on a number of issues that you can. Fred Barnes, who at the time was a senior editor of the New Republic, posted a piece in the LA Times December 9th, 1986, Ronald Reagan's sixth year. Conservatives in '86 were abandoning Reagan, the most important conservative in the history of the movement in America.

"A dozen or so conservative leaders met privately at a Washington hotel last week to discuss the future of their political movement. Edward Feulner of the Heritage Foundation was there. So were New Right strategist Paul Weyrich, several fund-raisers, two officials of the Reagan Administration and a few Capitol Hill aides. Not surprisingly, the conversation turned to President Reagan and the Iran arms scandal. Forget Reagan, they agreed. The President's a goner, his influence shattered forever. We've got to decide how to press our agenda without him. Only William Kristol, a top official of the Department of Education, dissented, insisting that Reagan should be defended.

"Thus, the Iran scandal has achieved what Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, the 1981-82 recession and the Marines debacle in Lebanon couldn't. It has caused the disintegration of the Reagan coalition, that blend of conservatives from fundamentalist Christians to libertarians that held together as the most unified single bloc in American politics for a decade. And even if the coalition is revived on an issue or two -- aid to the Nicaraguan contras, say, or funding the Strategic Defense Initiative -- as Reagan serves out his final two years in the White House, it won't be the dominant political force anymore.

"The matter can be put quite succinctly: Without Reagan the conservatives lack a popular leader, and without the conservatives Reagan lacks a broad ideological base. Both wind up losers, and the political balance of power tilts away from them. Sure, the conservatives are still sentimentally attached to Reagan, but he's no longer the same rallying point. Worse, there's no replacement in sight. Conservatives are fragmented on who should be the Republican presidential nominee in 1988. The gravity of the split is only now dawning on Reagan and his allies. Last Tuesday, Secretary of Education William J. Bennett denounced conservatives for ingratitude and political stupidity in abandoning Reagan.

"'There is no conservative agenda without Ronald Reagan,' Bennett said. 'He is the man who made whatever good has happened to this Administration happen, and people should be mindful of that.' Patrick J. Buchanan, the White House communications director, is even more blunt. 'There's an old saying that the major failing of American conservatives is they don't retrieve their wounded,' he said. 'Now's the time you take an inventory of your friends.' Not too many friends are turning up, however. Human Events, the weekly conservative publication that Reagan reads faithfully, has only half-heartedly defended him on the Iran arms deal.

"Linda Chavez, a White House aide until last winter, published a column in the Washington Post denouncing Lt. Col. Oliver North, the ousted National Security Council official blamed for diverting profits from the Iranian arms sales to the contras; she said that he was not a 'true conservative.' Bennett, who got Chavez her first job in the Administration, was so mad about this that he quickly spread the word that he was sorry he'd ever sponsored her. Why are conservatives so wary of supporting Reagan in his moment of greatest need?

"'Nobody believes in the issue, giving arms to Iran,' says Allan Ryskind, the editor of Human Events. 'Nobody's persuaded by the arguments. And while conservatives love the contras, they think that aiding them has now been jeopardized.' (Military aid was only narrowly approved by Congress this year, and the scandal over diverted funds makes renewal of aid less than likely.) Another source of wariness by most conservatives was the firing of North. 'Was North scapegoated or did he deserve to be fired?' asks Jeffrey Bell, an adviser to Rep. Jack Kemp (R-N.Y.). 'Until conservatives know that, they'll be on hold. They love North.' And though many conservatives may be inclined to stand with Reagan, they're unsure where to do that. With new revelations in the Iran scandal occurring daily, 'they don't know what ground to stand on,' says Bell.

"Complains Howard Phillips of the Conservative Caucus: 'The nature of the issue keeps changing.' Finally, there are conservatives like Phillips who always regarded Reagan as too moderate for their taste. 'We wish the best for him, but we're going to focus more on the 1988 presidential race than on helping his cause,' Phillips says. 'Reagan has turned over the substance of policy to people in fundamental disagreement with the policies he's rhetorically espoused.' Phillips is resistant to lobbying. His friend Buchanan pleaded with him over dinner last Wednesday to come to the President's defense. Afterwards, Phillips went on ABC-TV's 'Nightline' and trashed Reagan."

Is it not interesting? It seems like history is repeating. Now, I know Bush is no Reagan (don't misunderstand) in the sense of leading a movement, and I've been the first to say this. But what's interesting is they just want to abandon him, and I'll tell you, there is something in here that's really true: Conservatives do not retrieve their "wounded" from the battlefield; they abandon them. There is so much -- especially more so today than ever before, there's so much -- competition out there. Conservatism has gotten so big; it has so many people who want to claim to be the leader, claim to be the definers, that if anybody takes a hit, they're happy to let them fade away because of the competition.

You know, conservatives do have competitors within the ranks. When the competitors bite the bullet, bite the dust, they're only too willing to let them, some of them them are, just fade away. There is not a whole lot of public defense, including of the president. Now, it's true the president is not defending himself, either. But I'll tell you something, I remember this period. I was working in Sacramento at the time, and I was wondering during this whole Iran Contra stuff, where's Reagan? He was being trashed every day in the media. "Where's Reagan? Why didn't he get up there and answer this stuff?"

Some people were saying, "Because he can't! Because he can't. Because it's true," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They say the same thing about Bush. "Why doesn't he go out there and defend himself?" Well Bush's answer is he doesn't care. He's got his job to do and he doesn't think it's PR spin. It's the same thing with Cheney. Cheney's got a piece coming out in Vanity Fair, I guess, or an interview with him, and they ask him (summarized): "What about your horrible public image?" He said, "I'm not in the public image business. I guess I could improve it if I went out there and tried to improve it, but that's not what my job is. My job is not public spin. My job is not my public image," and so it's amazing, these parallels.

Yet when Ronald Reagan died, all these people who abandoned him (those still around) were muscling trying to get in the front row, trying to make sure they were all over the place to be seen as loyal, never-wavering supporters. The '86 midterm elections, you know, these defections, and people who said, "We can't run with Reagan! Why, Reagan is destroying us." There's always been this tendency on the conservative side to, when there's trouble, split the scene and run away -- and, you know, Reagan did some things to irritate conservatives. While he cut taxes he also raised them at times. You know, abandoning Lebanon after the Marine barracks was hit, that wasn't popular with people. But look how time changes things. When you go back and you look at the totality of a period of time, I don't remember during the funeral week of Ronald Reagan, other than his son and maybe a couple Democrats, but even they were pretty quiet. I don't remember any of these conservatives stepping forward to remind everybody how effectiveless and worthless and pointless the last two or three years of Reagan's term were, do you?

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To: mnehrling

Sorry, I fear I sound a bit too defensive.

However, I'm wondering if one can be banned for advocating sitting on one's hands in the next election in order to teach the Republican Party a much needed lesson about honoring conservative principles. If these are the rules, then I should be banned. Certainly don't want to post where it's not welcome.


141 posted on 05/04/2006 11:25:20 AM PDT by negril
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To: MNJohnnie
The GOP and some GOP candidates won't run away from GWB, but the voters will.

Rush always does better when he can bash the opposition in the majority.

The Dems will gain the majority and impeach GWB. Nice going, GWB, enforce the rule of law, close down the borders, build and defend a wall on the border, ask congress to repeal the CFR bill you signed, and kick out all of the criminal alien Mexicans and we may forgive you.
142 posted on 05/04/2006 11:26:02 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: You Dirty Rats
You are holding him accountable for a campaign promise he never made. That's unfair.

Maybe folks wouldn't be so upset if he hadn't decided to propose amnesty (guest worker plan, whatever) after hanging out with Vicente Fox. The issue probably could have simmered under the surface for a few more years, but Bush forced the issue.

143 posted on 05/04/2006 11:26:24 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: mnehrling
I think it is time that everyone read this by the owner of this site before going any further: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1612942/posts

What an excellent article! I missed that one, so thank you for posting the link to it today. I bumped it while I was there, and I think it needs to be bumped several times a day.

144 posted on 05/04/2006 11:27:24 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: RobbyS

On the illegal immigration issue, the polls show majorities in both parties like the House option far better. This is also a labor issue and that get's the unions' attention which gets the Dims' attention. There may not be enough wiggle room in the middle for these RINO skanks!


145 posted on 05/04/2006 11:27:58 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: mnehrling

Interior Enforcement:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1626293/posts?page=204#204

http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju21911.000/hju21911_0f.htm

Hutchinson ends interior enforcement:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39418

I haven't found the other one. It was in an article posted in the replies to one of the myriad illegal alien threads, so it isn't turning up with a search. Perhaps someone else bookmarked it.


146 posted on 05/04/2006 11:28:18 AM PDT by Politicalmom (If fences don't work, why is there a fence around the White House?)
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To: DesScorp
Like Harriet Myers, we can bring him around OUR way, without giving power to the Democrats.

The Bush extremists are still whining about what hapopened to Miers while not once giving credit to the conservatives for getting Alito. Good ol' cognitive dissonance.

147 posted on 05/04/2006 11:29:34 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: Final Authority
The Dems will gain the majority and impeach GWB. Nice going, GWB, enforce the rule of law, close down the borders, build and defend a wall on the border, ask congress to repeal the CFR bill you signed, and kick out all of the criminal alien Mexicans and we may forgive you.

You are Exhibit A of an unappeaseable.

148 posted on 05/04/2006 11:30:42 AM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: sinkspur
And stop whining!! I've never seen so many bawling babies in my life.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

149 posted on 05/04/2006 11:30:54 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: edcoil

I think you missed the point.

There are many Pubbies who are running for office and are distancing themselves from The Prez because of his low approval ratings.


150 posted on 05/04/2006 11:31:30 AM PDT by no dems (A Winning Campaign Theme for a Conservative in '08: "PUTTING AMERICA FIRST")
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To: mnehrling
Source- Michael Medved

Michael Medved most certainly does not represent mainstream conservative opinion.

151 posted on 05/04/2006 11:31:30 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: MNJohnnie
It was easy in the past. GOP pro life, Dems pro death. GOP pro America, Dems pro anything but. GOP, pro national security, Dems, pro France (or the UN).

Now, it is GOP, for open borders, criminal alien amnesty, rule of big corporation's interests, not the rule of law, for the limitation of free speech (GWB signed the CFR bill), and for the Mexicanization of our culture.

The Dems are an alternative. As Jay Severin says, do you want a goat poop sandwich or a horse poop sandwich? I'll try whatever the GOP isn't serving this time.
152 posted on 05/04/2006 11:31:51 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Junior_G

I was aware that Bush favored some sort of amnesty before I voted for him in 2000. I followed the Wall Street Journal's open borders editorials closely and was receptive to the idea. But then things changed on 9/11. Except for Bush's continued push for amnesty. I voted for Bush again thinking the amnesty thing was out the window because I couldn't imagine Bush would still favor such after 9/11. Man, was I wrong.


153 posted on 05/04/2006 11:32:10 AM PDT by negril
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To: negril
(you won't get banned for good debate.. you haven't crossed any line that I've seen the mods zot someone for, usually threats, impeachment calls, etc..) but to get back to the debate...

The problem is that in teaching the Republican party a lesson, you are decapitating good conservatives as well.
This 'lesson' we are teaching would eliminate leadership of a party that, for example, you may agree with 50% of the time and give power to a group you agree with 0% of the time.

The time to teach the Republican party a lesson is in the primaries, but once we get to the general election, it is time to start thinking strategy. Giving the democrats power would result in real laws being enacted, real taxes being raised, and real liberal justices being nominated, all having long term impact.

I would rather have a few RINOs and a party I agree with 50% of the time than a strong conservative minority with 0 power, watching everything we believe in slip away.

For example, we eliminate the Republicans over immigration, then we also give the democrats control over issues such as the military, abortion, taxation..etc..

Change from within.
154 posted on 05/04/2006 11:32:40 AM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: Rockitz
On the illegal immigration issue, the polls show majorities in both parties like the House option far better.

Not polls. A poll, sponsored by an organization opposed to almost all immigration, legal and illegal.

Without seeing the questions, it's impossible to judge its accuracy.

155 posted on 05/04/2006 11:32:49 AM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: jmc813

I think you are getting him mixed up with Michael Savage.


156 posted on 05/04/2006 11:33:52 AM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: no dems

No, I don't think so. I am not buying into the MSM blame bush for everything.

I am looking at the bigger picture as well. I get calls from GOP, GOPAC's etc all the time and I talk with the callers and I listen to the RNC and discussing the issues. While Bush has a low rating, the GOP congress is at 22% approval so, I am simply holding the congress accountable for its failure and not the president.


157 posted on 05/04/2006 11:37:44 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: jmc813
Michael Medved most certainly does not represent mainstream conservative opinion.

I like Medved's eloquence, and enjoy listening to him most of the time; but he's definitely a "party hack" Republican.

158 posted on 05/04/2006 11:38:18 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: sinkspur

As a great conservative once said, regarding your argument that claims I am an "unappeasable": Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. ... Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

That was Barry Goldwater, a great man who had as much to do with the defeat of Stalinist Russia as anybody. I am just concerned where we are heading presently.


159 posted on 05/04/2006 11:39:07 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: sinkspur
Without seeing the questions, it's impossible to judge its accuracy.

I actually took the Zogby Poll last week and I heard the questions. There was no steering that I could detect.

160 posted on 05/04/2006 11:41:45 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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