New Poll: Americans Prefer House Approach on Immigration

U.S. Newswire ^ | 5-3-2006 | Steven Camarota

[nicmarlo]

BTTT : )

[stephenjohnbanker]

"An overwhelming majority of 77 percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just 15 percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs."

85% has just called Bushs "jobs Americans won't do" a bare-faced lie!!!! get a clue, Bush.......your scam ain't working!

[antisocial]

"Once upon a time, FReepers used to deride Clinton for governing solely by focus group and poll results."


Does that mean Bush should ignore this poll?

[Old_Mil]

How many illegal aliens do you propose to incarcerate?

All of them, as a prelude to deportation. When we invaded Iraq, should we have only fought a percentage of the Iraqi army? When we attack Iran, should we only engage a portion of the Iranian military?

[stephenjohnbanker]

Yeah, 85% believe Bushs " Jobs americans won't do" is a scam!! But, but republicans won't get slaughtered in the next election....honest they won't! .......................

R O T F L M A O

[nicmarlo]

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

-- Abraham Lincoln

[LAMBERT LATHAM]

Are you proposing military occupation of the U.S.? We didn't even jail the whole Iraqi army. We took away their guns and sent them home.

How do you propose to round up all of them?

Its realistic to find and jail 20 to 25%. Jail that many and put them on chain gangs then cut off the social services to the rest and they will self deport.

Remember 95% of the Hispanics who come here had jobs at home. They just come to make more money. South America isn't like Africa people aren't starving. They're just greedy and willing to become criminals to make an extra buck.

Show them that crime doesn't pay and they will go away.

[Earthdweller]

"establish a data base similar to any credit bureau."

The medical professions have been doing this for years.

[stephenjohnbanker]

BTTT

[Mogollon]

Fining employers sounds easy in principle, but is extremely difficult in practice. The prosecution must prove that the employer KNOWINGLY hired an illegal alien, and that means proving a specific state of mind--and that is almost impossible absent an employer confessing.

If the employee does not have a copy of their SS card and a valid drivers license and/or U.S. passport then they should not be hired. If they are hired without legal documentation then the employer is libel.

Government inspections should be made periodically of employers and any employer that does not have appropriate documentation for employees should be fined heavily. Mexico does this very thing. I have first hand experience with Mexico's immigration laws because I have done consulting contracts in Mexico. They are very strict with foreign workers, we should follow their example.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

How about catch'em once, brand them and deport'em. Catch an illegal brand and execute them. Guaranteed that'll stop the wave.

Uh-huh. Hey, it even suggests a nice game for sickos--duplicate the brand and apply it to people they dislike. That person is now under an instant death sentence.

I guess you got lost in thought because it was unfamiliar territory...

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

If the employee does not have a copy of their SS card and a valid drivers license and/or U.S. passport then they should not be hired.

Most illegals provide a copy of a social security card. I know of no law that mandates people to have driver's licenses (if they do not drive) or to obtain a U.S. passport.

[dirtboy]

There were few groups in which a majority supported the Senate plan, even when presented by itself. Exceptions included Hispanics, 62 percent of whom said it was a good or very good idea, and the most liberal voters (progressives), 54 percent of whom approved of it.

Of course, who did Bush caucus with last week? Why, those trying to get the Senate plan passed.

Which shows just how far left his stance is on this issue.

Support the GOP in 2006 - say no to Bush on this issue, no to the Senate, and HELL YES! to the House bill.

[Earthdweller]

The idea of employers "checking" a potential employees legitimacy is not all that novel. The Medical professions have been doing it for years using a national data base. Currently they can just make a phone call or get on a website and know if an employee is legit within minutes using the license number provided by the potential employee. The check is done during the interview.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

You have seniority oh Chief of the Petulant and Annoying. To answer your question - ZERO! Round them up and give em' a cool ride on a C-130 to Mexico.

OK, and they come back in, and the problem starts all ovber again.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

The boomers have never cared for anyone else, so why should anyone feel obligated to care for them???

Well, applying your standard to yourself, I think you have just expressed your intention to commit suicide before requiring any sort of elder care.

[Earthdweller]

"I know of no law that mandates people to have driver's licenses (if they do not drive) or to obtain a U.S. passport."

Valid work license? Issued only after checking for legitimate citizenship or intent to become a citizen after paying appropriate fees and/or fines?

Burden of proof will be on the employer.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

Valid work license? Issued only after checking for legitimate citizenship or intent to become a citizen after paying appropriate fees and/or fines?

Amazing how, almost two decades after the demise of communism and its system of rigorous control over its slaves (internal passports, work permits, state permission to relocate, et cetera), some folks want to put the shackles on their own wrists and ankles.

[Earthdweller]

If you want to work, get a work license proving you are a citizen. Don't need employment..don't get it.

Non citizens can go to their the nearest port of US entry and obtain theirs. Otherwise they had better come here financially independent, become farmers or business owners.