Posted on 05/03/2006 7:45:44 PM PDT by nckerr
A five thousand dollar fine per illegal would stop landlords from leasing to illegals.
flaglady47,
You are a true patriot and a great wordsmith.
Your words should be echoed thoughtout the halls of Conservatism (if there is such a thing with our craven representatives).
If you were to apply for a job, I wouldn't check your SS number. Why? You're a pasty-faced white boy.
But, rather than risk getting scammed, I'd just turn away all Hispanics. And I'd blame it on whichever party was in the White House at the time. You get enough business owners like me who were turning their backs on Hispanics, and there'd be pressure to change the system.
When did checking immigration status devolve onto the backs of American business anyway? If you're here, I ought to be able to hire you.
In principle, not a bad argument. But, the practical issue is that the government already requires some burdensome documentation. Both my children were recently hired for part-time jobs. The level of documentation was considerable, and the paperwork quite burdensome. For example, only certain pieces of documentation were sufficient by themselves. The only single piece of documentation that I had on my own children without going to the safety deposit box at the bank was their passports. Otherwise you needed two. Therefore, the burden already exists.
It doesn't seem to work though. So, replacing with an instant check system would reduce the burden and improve the effectiveness.
This is the identical argument the NRA made with regards to background checks. The NRA was not opposed to background checks for firearms purchases, they just wanted it easy and fast. (Previously, it had been designed deliberately to take weeks and be very burdensome. Now it takes just a few minutes and you hardly notice it.)
If the government cracks down too hard on these guys, businesses will just refuse to hire Hispanics altogether, legal or illegal.
I never mentioned Hispanics. And indeed, the existing background check is done on everyone. My children are basically WASP / white, and they still had to do it. Indeed, the instant check actually protects businesses, which is why gun dealers love it. If the check says that the person is OK, they are legally not liable. Same for businesses.
By passing nothing. We don't live in a democracy, remember, but a representative republic.
With all due respect, sir, you are absolutely dead wrong. As I stated in my post above, these (existing) checks are required of everyone. My beautiful "white" children had to do it.
If the check can be done in two minutes, and relieves the business owner of liability, then it would be a good thing.
According to Senator Cornyn (R-Tx.), my Senator, it would take five years to build such a database.
If your talking about a person who honestly makes a mistake I agree. Some of these employers actively recruit illegals, and they are caught and prosecuted, we are just not putting the resources to catching enough of them to make a difference.
Gee, golly, gosh...could this mean that the President has been lying to us? I'm soooooo shocked!
Sometimes stupid questions don't deserve answers.
Just because there is no finite "percentage" to give you for incarceration does not relieve our government from enforcing the law.
What a silly argument you present. If one were to follow your logic, no laws would be enforced and no one would ever be incarcerated.
Closing the border, fining scoflaw employers and raiding businesses will do a heck of a lot toward encouraging our illegal Mexican neighbors to return home voluntarily. I don't understand why people like you run away screaming like banshees whenever anyone suggests enforcing our laws.
(BTW... how many illegals do you employ???).
It is also not against the law currently to lease an apartment to an illegal.
...it's a stupid question.
LOL!!!! ; )
You have seniority oh Chief of the Petulant and Annoying. To answer your question - ZERO! Round them up and give em' a cool ride on a C-130 to Mexico.
With a good ID system, if you could prove via internet documentation, that you went through the system, to check the ID, no problem. And if you refused to hire someone, without a check, and documentation that you checked, that would open the employer up to a lawsuit. Going though the ID process, would be job one. Getting the requisite get out of jail free card, would and should insulate an employer from lawsuits, or indictments. It is really very simple as I see it. What am I missing? I don't mind an employer checking out this pasty white faced boy, who has really gained some passing familiary with the English langauge, at all. And an employer should do it. In fact, maybe the law should be, that if you don't do it, you are fined period, even if the one without the proper paper work in the file, and an internet log, proves to have had his ancestors here since the Mayflower. Just some thoughts.
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