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1 posted on 05/03/2006 11:23:18 AM PDT by street_lawyer
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How do they propose to stop the genocide without changing the government? Students today seem to be marching just to march as they have no solutions just complaints.


2 posted on 05/03/2006 11:25:17 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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Centuries of intermarriage between native Africans and Arabs have made them indistinguishable.

The people involved have no difficulty distinguishing each other, which is the only point that matters. Consider Bosnian Muslims, Serbs and Croats. Nobody else could tell them apart by looking. Or Irish Protestants vs. Catholics.

BTW, I assume this is a vanity? It contains lots of inaccuracies or incomplete statements. Thought you might like to know.

4 posted on 05/03/2006 11:32:20 AM PDT by Restorer
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There is no "government" of Darfur.

Darfur is an area within the nation of Sudan and there is a national government of Sudan.

Your text, in a number of areas, confuses this distinction, and confuses people into thinking there is a goverment of Darfur and separately a government of Sudan.

The major points of difference between contending Sudanese groups in Darfur, is that the Sudanese government has been openly and covertly aiding militant Sudanese groups who are largely, ethnically Arabs and the so-called rebel groups they are fighting against in Darfur are largely black African ethnic groups that include both Christians and Muslims.

A few hundred thousand black African Sudanese in Darfur have been killed by the government supported groups and about 2.5 million are either in a refugee camp, living day-to-day as nomads trying to avoid being killed or taking some sort of refuge in Chad. If that is not a form of genocide, I don't know what is.

China will never allow the UN Security Council to put any kind of "final" pressure on the government of Sudan. They have thousands of engineers in Sudan developing Sudan's oil industry for export to China. Some of that oil is in or near Darfur.

If France had been without so much nuclear power, you can imagine how much harder they would have fought to keep Saddam propped up.


8 posted on 05/03/2006 11:57:41 AM PDT by Wuli
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The situation is Sudan is proof that the UN is completely and utterly useless. It's nothing but a cigar club for tin horn dictators.

I remember last year laughing out loud at the TV when a UN brokered 'peace agreement' was reached.

The protestors on the streets are just looking for a reason to crucify the US. They don't give 2 frog farts about the people of Sudan or logical consistency. They just want something they can pin on the evil, capitalist, war mongering, imperialist, facist, neonazi USA. That is their one and only concern.

We should give the UN and the rest of the world a choice: Either let us go into Sudan, unhindered, unopposed and without any of the usual UN BS to fix this thing once and for all, or we won't lift a finger for anyone there. That should be their choice.

Personally, Muslims created this mess, let them clean it up.


16 posted on 05/03/2006 12:24:45 PM PDT by navyguy
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There is a serious problem in Darfur. Whether you call it genocide, democide, or crimes against humanity it is a terrible problem that the "world community" cannot address. How do you stop a government from killing its own people? As long as they cross no international borders the rest of the world shows no interest. Simply ask the Armenians in Turkey, the Jews of Europe, the Cambodians under Pol Pot , or the Kurds under Saddam or the Karen, Shan, Mon etc. in Burma. The strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must.

To those who say "Who cares?", all I can reply is that once you have seen a 6-year old girl shot in the stomach and left to die along with her whole family because she was the wrong ethnic group it makes you mad. Such evil should cause anger and indignation among civilized people. Indifference to evil is evil.

Others say where will we get the troops. There is a solution to that too. Arm and trainthe Christians in Darfur so that they may defend there own homes. Those who commit genocide should not be garuntted safe working conditions. We've got plenty of weapons laying around in Iraq that could be used by these people to defend themseleves. A little air cover and a few SF teams and the situation could be much improved.


19 posted on 05/03/2006 1:16:25 PM PDT by FBRhawk (Pray with faith, act with courage, never surrender!)
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Many believe that the conflict between the North and South in Sudan is a religious war. In the North most Arabs are Muslims, while in the South they are mostly Christians. This type of conflict has thousands of years of history. More than 40% of the population of Darfur is Christian. Many have had to escape into neighboring Chad to avoid the death squads sent out by the Darfur government.

I think you may have your facts misplaced.

22 posted on 05/03/2006 2:35:23 PM PDT by zimdog
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are you saying that there is no genocide going on in darfur?


30 posted on 05/03/2006 4:07:11 PM PDT by zimdog
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