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Montenegro is no one's junior partner
Financial Times ^ | 3 May 2006 | Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic

Posted on 05/03/2006 10:18:06 AM PDT by mark502inf

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To: Hoplite

Hey, got those pancakes ready yet or do you need more time at the dentist?


21 posted on 05/03/2006 12:53:30 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: mark502inf

But didn't you tell me that the last of the sanctions would remain until Mladic and Karazdic were captured?

Did you get that wrong as well?


22 posted on 05/03/2006 12:54:44 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Hoplite
The level of discourse just keeps improving, doesn't it?

It sure can't get any worse! But then it does.

I had to stay up late and work the phone out to your part of the USA tonight, but it's after midnight now, so I'm hitting the rack.

23 posted on 05/03/2006 12:56:02 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
It sure can't get any worse! But then it does.

What do you expect from the Soros fluffers and the Clinton kneepad brigade, anyway?

24 posted on 05/03/2006 12:59:46 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: mark502inf; FormerLib
You are naive about Balkan affairs and even worse embarrassing. Think about it.

Djukanovic has been a long time Commie (since his teens)joining with the League of Communists of Yugoslavia before joining the Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia in 1979. He is a friend of the great slime Clinton.

He is a mafioso of the first order being investigated by the Italians for years.

In short he is everything that is abhorrent in the world and you go and glorify his words. Pretty yucky!
25 posted on 05/03/2006 1:05:50 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: mark502inf; FormerLib

Plus the mafioso Djukanovic is a liar when he says that montenegro was never under the Turks. In fact, similarly to Serbia, Montenegro was under the rule of the Ottoman Turks for the duration of their reign in the Balkans.

I guess he is fooling people like you markie but not the rest of us. Djuka must be thinking of Zeta - the Serbian independent principality that replaced the ancient Kingdom of Duklja.

In any case the Montenegrans are Serbians.


26 posted on 05/03/2006 1:17:59 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: mark502inf
Banat: link
DTA: link
kronos77: link
pusimikurac: (you never responded to him, however, his name certainly gets honorable mention here) link
getoffmylawn: link
Everybody: (you were smacked around pretty good on this thread) link
Everyone: (both you and the now banned Hunden received a nice as whupping on this one) link

Just a few tidbits. I think I shall go get some coffee now..

27 posted on 05/03/2006 1:19:37 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Hoplite

The head troglodyte speaks forth from his rectum, as usual.


28 posted on 05/03/2006 1:22:03 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: mark502inf
Hmmm... Milo Djukanovich. The chief mafioso from Montenegro. Miloshevich's best student. Sought by the Italian justice system for rampant cigarette-smuggling and white slavery. Caught with his pants down - twice - as his cronies tried to bribe two Montenegrin citizens in connection with the May 21 referendum. Why shouldn't we believe him, right? Give me a break.
29 posted on 05/03/2006 1:32:34 PM PDT by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIÆ)
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To: Banat
"Hmmm... Milo Djukanovich. The chief mafioso from Montenegro. Miloshevich's best student. Sought by the Italian justice system for rampant cigarette-smuggling and white slavery. Caught with his pants down - twice - as his cronies tried to bribe two Montenegrin citizens in connection with the May 21 referendum. Why shouldn't we believe him, right? Give me a break."

Add this post to the list...

30 posted on 05/03/2006 2:16:29 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: mark502inf

Muslim is a religious designation.


31 posted on 05/03/2006 2:46:10 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: mark502inf; Hoplite; All

Actually, Montenegrins are themselves Serbs. In fact, historically the pro-independence element of Montenegrin society, or 'Greens' based their pro-independence claims on the notion that the Montenegrins are purer or truer Serbs than their lowland brethren. Also, have you bothered to ask yourself if Djukanovic's motivation for independence is really pure...or something not all together savory.


32 posted on 05/03/2006 3:48:07 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (L. Ron Hubbard was a fake, a liar, a crook, and a piece of crap.)
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To: mark502inf; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
It involves my own small but fiercely proud multi-ethnic country, Montenegro, which was wiped off the map by the Allies after the first world war and forced to become part of the kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, which was renamed Yugoslavia.

"Fiercely proud"? Yes, fiercely proud center of Serbian identity and rebirth. If tiny Montenegro separates from Serba it will become prey to "multi-ethnic" (Albanian/Muslim etc ) forces.

BTW, Radovan Karadzic - the leader of Serbs in Bosnia is Montenegrin and so was Vuk Karadzic - the reformer of modern Serbian language. Others like current President of Serbia Boris Tadic and actress Milla Jovovich are Montenegrin too.

33 posted on 05/03/2006 3:59:08 PM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: mark502inf
Montenegrins all wanted to get away from Serbia.

So when the current President of Serbia Boris Tadic is going to get away? Is he under house arrest?

34 posted on 05/03/2006 4:01:10 PM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: A. Pole

Also Milosevic was a Montenegrin Serb by origin, (although born in Pozarevac, Serbia)


35 posted on 05/03/2006 4:25:04 PM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: Jacob Kell
Also, have you bothered to ask yourself if Djukanovic's motivation for independence is really pure...or something not all together savory.

Perhaps, but look at what the citizenry are looking at.

Former Yugoslav Republics, date of independence, & est. 2005 per capita GDP (PPP)

Slovenia: June '91 $21,000
Croatia: June '91 $11,600
Macedonia: September '91 $7,600
Bosnia: March '92 $6,800
Serbia & Montenegro $2,700

While some of that has to do with the north-west of former Yugoslavia being traditionally economically more developed, the majority of the difference is due to Serbia's inability to pursue a course of enlightened self interest. If you were a Montenegrin voter, how much weight would you give to ethnic solidarity vs. the fact that everybody in the neighborhood, to include Albanians, are economically better off than you are and the longer you wait for Serbia to get its sh*t together the further behind you're falling in relation to everybody else?

If it wasn't Djukanovic, it likely would have been someone else trying to free Podgorica from Belgrade's orbit.

36 posted on 05/03/2006 5:24:46 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Jacob Kell; FormerLib; eleni
Montenegro, the country whose financial stablity DEPENDS on cigarette smuggling and white slavery.

Lovely place.. SERBIA should toss them to the "curb"!!

37 posted on 05/03/2006 5:50:46 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: montyspython
Another GREAT resource post! THANKS, I enjoyed the reading.

LOL.... mark should change his handle to "dumbbbbbbbb".

38 posted on 05/03/2006 5:52:27 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: mark502inf

This isn't true. It appears that way. Long story short, the CIA got hold of Milosevic in the 1980's after he came to the U.S. and study banking. They turned him to politics and work to becoming president. Milo returned to Serbia but was turned back around by the Serbian nationalist to become a nationalist. The U.S. lost him, so, the Clinton Admin, Introduced the Muzzies from Afghanstan to Bosnia to stir up the Serbian rule, and fabricated much of what the Serbs are accused of. However, the Serbian leaders and paramilitaries got somewhat heavy handed and did execute without due process. This carried all the way to Croatia and certainly to the fabrications about Kosovo that people have seemed to forget about. People still believe that 8,000 Muslims were murdered in Srebrenica for example. The whole idea was and is to break up Yugoslavia enroute to the Russian states as well. The Albanians are working hard to bring about the Greater Albania, as their control of Montenegro will be to vote for Independence. Second, Kosovo independence, third; start rumors and accusations about how ill treated Albanians are in South Presevo (referred to as East Kosovo), and certainly provocations in the western part of Macedonia. I suspect that the powers that be are working to eliminate Macedonia by 2008 to 2010.

It has little to do with Serbian oppression. It has to do with provocation and exploitation. Ever since 1999, not one wimper of suppression was uttered from the Albanians in the Bujanovoc or Presevo. As a matter of fact, during the days of the UCPMB, one of the leaders, a criminal named Shifket Misliu, was threatened by Albanians in Presevo to leave them alone and stop asking for support of the UCPMB. These are the facts.............


39 posted on 05/03/2006 11:48:28 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: FormerLib

you are right on track...........keep moving on. good job.


40 posted on 05/03/2006 11:51:20 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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