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To: silverleaf
You would have been right in tune with the 17th century Church when it prosecuted Galileo. Same arguments.

So the Church (religion) persecuting Galileo (science) for contradicting fragile beliefs is like scientists (science) defending evolution (science) from ID-based (religion) attacks? Galileo had evidence, the Church had an interpretation of the Bible (and a perceived threat to their power).

Hmmmmm...

75 posted on 05/03/2006 10:12:53 AM PDT by LibertarianSchmoe ("...yeah, but, that's different!" - mating call of the North American Ten-Toed Hypocrite)
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To: LibertarianSchmoe
So the Church (religion) persecuting Galileo (science) for contradicting fragile beliefs is like scientists (science) defending evolution (science) from ID-based (religion) attacks? Galileo had evidence, the Church had an interpretation of the Bible (and a perceived threat to their power).
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Yes, the simile is that in both cases, one side was willing to use threats to silence the other side from even expressing its opinion, and supporting evidence, in open forum. In both the case of the 17th century Church which sought to define science as dangerously irreverent, and latter 21st century science which seeks to define faith as dangerously irrational .... seeking censorship through threats of legal coercion..has replaced tolerance and debate .... and has consigned open inquiry into finding scientific proof of the existence and nature of the Judeao-Christian personal God....or of an impersonal but highly advanced super intelligent consciousness which underlies the creation of a mathematically precise universe...to open ridicule ("flying spaghetti monster" indeed).

And by the way, Galileo had both science AND faith. His beef was not that the Church was wrong to believe in God's role as Creator, but that they were misinterpreting the way God did it, based on the physical evidence.
292 posted on 05/03/2006 4:49:17 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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