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"Dad Was Fine When I Came Out of Closet" -- Mary Cheney
Drudge Report ^ | May 2, 2006 | Drudge

Posted on 05/02/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by meandog

New York, N.Y. – In her new memoir, NOW IT'S MY TURN(Simon & Schuster/Threshold Editions, 2006), Mary Cheney writes that when she told her parents she was gay, the first words out of her father’s mouth “were exactly the ones that I wanted to hear: ‘You’re my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.’”

VANITY FAIR editor Todd Purdum reports that Mary Cheney tells her story in a voice very much like her father’s, and that she came out to her parents when she was a junior in high school, on a day when, after breaking up with her first girlfriend, she skipped school, ran a red light, and crashed the family car. Cheney writes that her mother hugged her, but then burst into tears, worried that she would face a life of pain and prejudice.

When Purdum asks the vice president whether he thinks gay people are born that way, Cheney scrunches up his mouth, fixes him with a look that says “Nice try,” then says: “I’m not going to get into that. Those are deeply personal questions. You can ask.”

Mary Cheney tells Purdum that her father “has very little tolerance for bullshit, pardon my French.” She also says that one common reaction from people who have read the manuscript of her book is “‘Wow, you guys really have this close-knit, loving family,’ and it always strikes me as ‘Yeah, of course we do.’ It was very surprising to me that people would think we didn’t.”

When Purdum asks Cheney if he is fatalistic about his heart disease, Cheney says, “I am. I don’t even think about it most of the time. You do those things a prudent man would do, and I live with it.” Asked what he would have for breakfast at Nora’s Fish Creek Inn, his favorite pre-fishing spot in Wilson, Wyoming, Cheney responds without missing a beat: “I’d probably have two eggs over easy, sausage and hash browns,” then hastens to add that that is not his normal breakfast. “The day I go fishing, I get off my diet,” he says.” At a roundtable lunch with reporters a couple of years ago, two who were pres­ent tell Purdum that Cheney cut his buffalo steak in bite-size pieces the moment it arrived, then proceeded to salt each side of each piece.

Cheney tells Purdum that he has not changed over the years, but perhaps many of his contemporaries think he has “because of my associations over the years, or because I came across as a reasonable guy, people have one view of me that was not necessarily an accurate reflection of my philosophy or my view of the world.”

Purdum asks Cheney if, during his “darkest night,” he has even “a little doubt” about the administration’s course. “No,” he tells Purdum. “I think we’ve done what needed to be done.” Of the debate over whether or not the administration hyped the pre-war intelligence, Cheney says, “In the end, you can argue about the quality of the intelligence and so forth, but ... I look at that whole spectrum of possibilities and options, and I think we did the right thing.”

Cheney rejects the caricature of him as the power behind the throne, insisting, “I think we have created a system that works for this president and for me, in terms of my ability to be able to contribute and participate in the process.” When Purdum says that the cartoon characterization of him must not be accurate, Cheney says, “My image might be better out there, this caricature you talk about might be avoided, if I spent more time as a public figure trying to improve my image, but that’s not why I’m here.”

Purdum reports that Cheney travels with a chemical-biological suit at all times. When he gave his friend Robin West and his twin children a ride to the White House a couple of years ago, West commented on the fact that Cheney’s motorcade varied its daily path. “And he said, ‘Yeah, we take different routes so that “The Jackal” can’t get me,’” West tells Purdum. “And then there was this big duffel bag in the middle of the backseat, and I said, ‘What’s that? It’s not very roomy in here.’ And [Cheney] said, ‘No, because it’s a chemical-biological suit,’ and he looked at it and said, ‘Robin, there’s only one. You lose.’”

Purdum talks with former New York Times reporter and former executive editor of The Philadelphia Inquirer, James Naughton, who asks of Cheney: “Does he acknowledge that he is not as pleasant as he used to be?” Naughton knew Cheney as a fellow prankster during the 1976 campaign, and all but sighs in search of an explanation as to why he is so different now. “I guess I would like to believe,” he says, “without any evidence to support it, that coming very close to death has somehow compelled him to act as though he only has so much breath and so much life, that he’s only got so much time to accomplish what he has to do. But the public figure is nothing like the private one that I remember.”

Gerald Ford tells Purdum: “He may have changed a bit, but that was required for the change of circumstances.” Ford, who will turn 93 in July, adds, “Times change, and people change as a result of that.”

“If you’re looking for a change from one point to another, being vice president is sui generis,” Lynne Cheney tells Purdum. “It’s not quite like any other job.”

The June issue of Vanity Fair hits newsstands in New York and L.A. on May 3 and nationally on May 9.


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To: bobbdobbs

"What if your child said they were attracted to pre-teens? Or sheep?

Is it your position that all three of those are morally equivalent in all significant respects?"

Don't you?

by which method do you determine which is ok?


561 posted on 05/03/2006 6:46:16 AM PDT by stompk
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To: MACVSOG68
Randall Terry quote: "First of all, I love my son. Jamiel is incredibly gifted. He is articulate and handsome. He sings like an angel, he plays the piano, he's a great cook, and he's a great debater. He would make a powerful lawyer and a formidable politician. People like him. I love him. I've poured 16 years of my life into him."

What's fascinating here is that Randall Terry's praise for his son is expressed in exactly the terms in which the father himself would like to be seen: as articulate, handsome, a singer and pianist (Randall himself writes songs and plays the piano very well), a debater, a potentially "formidable" politician. It's apparent that Randall not only loves his son: he identifies with him.

This is always a potent combination. Many heart-wrenching father-son conflicts turn on just that point: that he father and the son identify with each other, and thus are grieved beyond all telling by failures and shortfalls.

Randall divorced his wife of 19 years, Cindy, and then married a much younger woman who had been his political campaign secretary, all the while soliciting tons of money from the Christian community touting his leadership in defending "the sanctity of the marriage covenant." There ya go: "fraud." Then we learn that his adopted son Jamiel lived a "double life" and sold the tale of his sexual misconduct with other males to Out, a magazine that cynically capitalizes on sexual exposes.

This is all shameful and repugnant. Yet I still say that all the moral failure, pain and shame does not refute the persistence of love and the power of hoped-for healing.

I can see that this father and son love each other. That's why the failures hurt so bad.

562 posted on 05/03/2006 6:51:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to do justly, to love mercy, and walk humbly with your God?)
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To: meandog
Yet the Apostle Paul had to set straight the Apostle Peter several times, who saw Jesus in the flesh. What is your point, that Paul was inspired by hate?

Is the Apostle Paul's letters and wisdom fallible? The early Church Fathers did not think so which is why they put Paul's words of wisdom in the Cannon as been inspired by God for him to write.
563 posted on 05/03/2006 6:51:58 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: longtermmemmory; zerosix
The Girl Scout Promise and The Girl Scout Law

Promise
On my honor, I will try:
To serve God and my country,
To help People at all times,
And to live by the Girl Scout Law.

Law
I will do my best to be
•honest and fair,
•friendly and helpful, •considerate and caring,
•courageous and strong, and
•responsible for what I say and do, and to
•respect myself and others,
•respect authority,
•use resources wisely,
•make the world a better place, and
be a sister to every Girl Scout

...are these principles still valid in GSA?

564 posted on 05/03/2006 6:54:52 AM PDT by meandog (If I were to draw the odious Islamic prophet Muhammad, he would have horns, a tail, and a ptichfork!)
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To: rintense

Those are entirely honorable sentiments, but if they answer my questions to you, I don't see how. Could you clarify?


565 posted on 05/03/2006 6:58:48 AM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: Sunsong
Read the full Bible. All of it. Even Mt 10: 34 - 35.
566 posted on 05/03/2006 6:58:52 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Labyrinthos
The response from their parents is as varied as humanity itself. The parents of a lesbian I know are well known in the community as radical leftist socialist pigs (Ok, so I added the "pig" part). When my friend came out to her parents, they stopped paying her college tuition and pretty much shunned her. On the other hand, when a gay friend came out to his parents -- who he calls "Archie and Edith Bunker" -- his father said something like "at least you're not a car thief, and I we won't have to worry about you knocking up the a neighbor." Yes, his parents were disappointed, but he kept they kept things in perspective.

In my experience, conservatives (except for the moonbat fringe, a la Keyes) deal with these things in a more civilized manner than leftists when presented as an acutal situation rather than an abstraction.

567 posted on 05/03/2006 7:01:41 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Sunsong

Thank you for your loving posts. I think you've "got it"!


568 posted on 05/03/2006 7:01:50 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: dinoparty
Interesting that Paul lumps all of the sins together in this passage. Greed, Adultery, homosexuality -- all the same.

Quite the 'special pleader,' aren't you?

569 posted on 05/03/2006 7:02:07 AM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
In my opinion, the War on Terror takes precedence over gay culture, abortion etc.

Precisely. How any rational person can fret over the arrangement of the deck chairs on the Titanic in the face of the two real problems we face (the Wahabifascist barbarian assault and the government's inability to exercise fiscal discipline) escapes me.

570 posted on 05/03/2006 7:04:03 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: meandog

Be very disappointed.


571 posted on 05/03/2006 7:07:04 AM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
We don't need you treating Christians like dummies.

LOL! The most effective way for you to prevent that outcome is to publicly convert to some -- any -- other religion. (I'd suggest Islam, but they're pretty much fully stocked on crazy at the moment.)

572 posted on 05/03/2006 7:08:15 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: steve-b
In my experience, conservatives (except for the moonbat fringe, a la Keyes) deal with these things in a more civilized manner than leftists when presented as an acutal situation rather than an abstraction.

Your comments (a la Keyes) are indicitive of what one commentator refered to when he said "when persecution comes to the Body of Christ in America, it will be lead by 'Christians.'"

573 posted on 05/03/2006 7:09:20 AM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: steve-b
In my experience, conservatives (except for the moonbat fringe, a la Keyes) deal with these things in a more civilized manner than leftists when presented as an acutal situation rather than an abstraction.

My experience also. Most of us really are compassionate conservatives. We may hate the sin, but we really do love the sinner.

574 posted on 05/03/2006 7:12:30 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: steve-b
How any rational person can fret over the arrangement of the deck chairs on the Titanic in the face of the two real problems we face (the Wahabifascist barbarian assault and the government's inability to exercise fiscal discipline) escapes me.

"Cause and Effect" gets pretty fuzzy when you cross the line into metaphysics.

575 posted on 05/03/2006 7:17:44 AM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: Labyrinthos

I wonder whether we hate the sin.


576 posted on 05/03/2006 7:18:49 AM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: papertyger
Churches love the $$$ but can tolerate the sin if the unrepentant sinner makes and gives a lot of $$$ to the Church.
577 posted on 05/03/2006 7:22:28 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: WackySam

"If I were your child and I told you God ordered me to kill my first born son, would you let me?"

Two answers:

1. The Bible explicitedly says that no directive from God would violate the Word, and, in fact, this was how to spot false prophets. To oversimplify (which is dangerous, but for our purposes here OK), God expressly stated that there would not be human sacrifice to Him (this directive came after the incident on the Mountain). Hence, knowing scripture, I would know you to be either intentionally lying, Satanic, or deluded.

2. I would not believe you using coming sense.


578 posted on 05/03/2006 7:24:53 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: conserv13

There are a lot of parents who have turned their backs on their kids for any number of problems... the fixation on conservatives and gay children is mostly press created nonsense.

Disowning has been around long before the gay rights movement....


579 posted on 05/03/2006 7:28:09 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: rollo tomasi

I don't think that's the case, here. I think it's more a case of "having cake, and eating it, too."

Churches have stood fairly firm against homosexuality. It's the individual Christians that seem to have trouble disdaining the practice. Were we talking polygamy, you can bet your bottom dollar there'd be a hue and cry like none other, at least from the women.


580 posted on 05/03/2006 7:29:46 AM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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