"Dad Was Fine When I Came Out of Closet" -- Mary Cheney

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[TAdams8591]

"Live and let live? That would be fine if that was THEIR attitude. But that isn't their attitude."

As anyone who has encountered some of their groups face to face like ACT UP can attest.

[papertyger]

Nope. I'm a sinner like everyone else. Far from perfect, nor striving to be for anyone other than my Creator.

Yet you advocate a reasoning that flies in the face of Christian Tradition and Scripture by treating a principle as an absolulte when it quite obviously is not.

Do you not think that before Paul spoke on the matter there were people arguing for withholding judgment against the man that had his father's wife at the Church of Corinth as you are, here?

[longtermmemmory]

That was my thought.

Was the "friend" an adult? Was this really a molestation by adult?

I think this is another effort by the homolobby to influence november elections.

At this point democrats are seeking to reduce turnout.

Cheney is not running for president so this is an irrlevant story otherwise.

[meandog]

1 Corinthians, Book of (New Testament)
Chapter 6, Verses 9-11 (NIV)

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Written by the Apostle Paul, the Pat Robertson of his day and a man who NEVER knew Christ in the flesh...

[papertyger]

We have our whole lives in which it is possible to truly repent. That many don't, doesn't mean that God is stingy with forgiveness.

And you are deviating from the analogy to justify yourself.

[longtermmemmory]

Its Troll a palooza...


Talking point of how parents are just supposed to "accept" a homosexual behavior in ofspring.

Sorry but that is pure BS.

This is a sick sex fetish that needs to be treated the same way as a admitting to having sex with animals.

[rintense]

As I said before, my job on this earth is to live a life according to God's wishes. That is what *I* believe. It is not my job to *tell* people how they should live their lives. I can only lead by example, answer questions as they are asked. If that leads them to a relationship with God, great! If not, that is their choice.

I can't make anyone turn to God. God gave man free will. It is by that free will that man may choose to return his life to God. But I will never equate myself to God by judging others. Never. You can question that all you want. But it is what I've been taught as a Christian and it is what I believe. You may not agree with it, which is fine.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

You’re my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.

I don't have a problem acknowledging a parental relationship no matter what. I don't have a problem acknowledging parental love no matter what. But I do have difficulties with the idea of wishing dysfunctional sexual behavior as the basis for happiness.

Sure, I want my children to be happy, but I'm not going to be elated if they choose to seek happiness through--for example--homosexuality, adultery, pedophilia, or promiscuity. I'm a big Cheney fan--I've voted for him four times, twice for VP, and twice for congressman. I'd be happy to see him as our president. However, his attitude being trumpeted here is something less than admirable.

[papertyger]

I'd expect a better response from a professional litigator, but I suppose you know when to withdraw even if you don't possess the nobility to concede.

[meandog]

I annually support GSA through yearly contributions, in hoping that more girls would become seniors and reach for the oppportunities and citizenship that GSA proports to provide (sadly, most girls seem to quit at age 13 or so)...I thought GSA was philosophically linked with BSA in opposition to ACLU-sponsored agendas. I would be extremely disappointed if this is not the case.

[longtermmemmory]

Girlscouts is a waste of time as they are pro homo and allow lesbians to be den mothers etc.

No way in heck would I allow a daughter anywhere near that organization. They are moral relaitivsts.

[papertyger]

And what is the example you are leading by with the line of reasoning you have consistently advocated?

Do you not see a discrepency between that leadership and the evaluations given by Jesus Christ to the seven Churches in the book of Revelation?

[meandog]

Yes you make me angry. You will lead people astray because you are afraid of Gods judgement. You have made a little box for God labeled "Love" and you're pushing Him in it. He is so much more than that.
Because of His love, He has given us rules.If you love someone, you tell them "Don't touch that it's hot! Look both ways before crossing the street". If you don't love someone, you don't care and there are no rules. He didn't give us rules to ruin our day. He gave us rules to save us.
Through His love for His children, He has given us a way to repent sin. He's given us grace. He loved us enough to die so that we may live. And you can't seem to accept that we NEED His forgiveness of our sin. You can't seem to accept that there is sin. You belittle His gift.

Please allow me to butt in...I was taught that the literal definition of sin is "missing the mark". Therefore, by logical reasoning, all sin is rather black or white to God with no sin being greater than another...and sin takes form in thought, word and deed.
My problem with most fundamentalist Christians is the assigning of one kind of sin over another. Homosexual acts or thoughts, for instance, being far more odious than that of hetrosexual adultery or lust in one's heart for another's wife (incidentally, I have been guilty of the latter and paid the steep price of divorce).

[rollo tomasi]

So if I leave my wife because I am desiring to have sex with another man or steal from the collection plate to buy some crack I am addicted to, will God forgive me if I have no desire to repent?

Just trying to get an idea on what you believe. Keep in mind I believe in Jesus but refuse to change my desires as well regarding this scenario. What say you, will I get to live with God in peace?

[dinoparty]

More confirmation that you resemble your remarks.

[little jeremiah]

Someone who loves others with wisdom and not just ooey gooey sentimentality can be soft like a rose, and yet hard like a thunderbolt (when needed).

Jesus is the perfect example.

Personally, I do not hate homosexual individuals, and would never be rude or hateful to any persons. But I am angered by the "gay" agenda, especially the targeting of children. The problem is that homosexual activists (and their assistants) do not feel the same way. I have been (and people I know have been) the target of some vicious behavior at the hands of homosexuals, solely because of our stand on morality. Up to and including violence.

[rintense]

That I *try* to live the life God wants me to. I am fallible, I am a sinner. I am not perfect. Do not I use that as an excuse to sin? No. I use it as a way to elevate God above me, as He should always be.

[DJ MacWoW]

My problem with most fundamentalist Christians is the assigning of one kind of sin over another. Homosexual acts or thoughts, for instance, being far more odious than that of hetrosexual adultery or lust in one's heart for another's wife

I don't see a differentiation in the Bible.

[dinoparty]

Interesting that Paul lumps all of the sins together in this passage. Greed, Adultery, homosexuality -- all the same.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks for that (excerpt?) from Alan Keyes. It is true and hits the target.