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To: Proud Conservative2; Corin Stormhands
I worry about his stand of Second Amendment issues and am still looking for a reliable source.

P8riot, could you help us out here?

Sure Corin,

Allen is very pro 2nd Amendment.

During his term as governor Virginia became a "shall issue" concealed carry state, meaning that the state has to issue you a concealed carry permit, unless you are specifically legally prohibited from posessing a weapon. No justification is required to any local authority either.

Also, while governor Project Exile became law in Richmond, targetting criminals and not law abiding citizens. Put simply, if you are caught with handgun and are legally prohibited from posessing one, you will do a MINIMUM of 5 yrs in a federal pennitentiary. The program was so successful in reducing Richmond's murder rate (at that time one of the highest in the country), that it became law statewide under Jim Gilmore.

What a lot of short sighted progunners mistate about George Allen's stand on the Clinton "Assault Weapons" ban is that Allen was for it.

While running for his first term in the US Senate, George Allen stated that he would be for renewal of the ban if it could be proved that it had a positive impact on violent crime. When Senator Feinstein of CA attached a "poison pill" amendment to the "Gun lawsuit immunity" legislation before the Senate, George Allen voted against it citing that he had taken the opportunity to study the effects of the ban and was convinced that it had zero effect on violent crime.

In fact in a conversation that I had with him before the vote, I pointed out some by products of the ban that he had not considered.

What some folks here and elsewhere consider an "anti-gun" vote against the lawsuit immunity bill was in fact a pro-gun vote that allowed a draconian gun ban to sunset.

Bottom line is that George Allen is very strong on the 2nd amendment. You can be rest assured that if you vote for him, he will not come after your guns.

115 posted on 05/02/2006 1:29:15 PM PDT by P8riot
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To: P8riot

Thanks. I promise to bookmark it this time.


116 posted on 05/02/2006 1:32:19 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: P8riot

"During his term as governor Virginia became a "shall issue" concealed carry state, meaning that the state has to issue you a concealed carry permit, unless you are specifically legally prohibited from posessing a weapon. No justification is required to any local authority either."



Our then Democrat Gov got this shoved down his throat too, and he hated it....So in all fairness, someone could say the same of him.

Please don't take this personally, but I have no idea who you are or why I should take what an unknown stranger tells me to the bank. I do appreciate your effort. It's just not enough to satisfy me at this point.


129 posted on 05/02/2006 4:01:46 PM PDT by Proud Conservative2 ("When people show you who they are...BELIEVE THEM the first time..." Maya Angelou)
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To: P8riot
Allen is very pro 2nd Amendment.

How do you explain his long-time support for the "Assault Weapons Ban"?

137 posted on 05/02/2006 6:19:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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