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Giuliani Shows a Candidate's Mettle to Republicans in Iowa
NY Times ^
| 5/2/6
| Patrick Healy
Posted on 05/02/2006 9:42:32 AM PDT by Crackingham
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To: HitmanLV
I had the pleasure of seeing Allen appear befuddled and bewildered by the likes of Barbara Boxer a few months back on tv. Not again! No more slow witted, flat footed good old boys in the Dubya "What, me worry?" tradition. "Brilliant", or even "sharp", is not a word often attached to Allen. And that worries me a lot too. I'm rather tired of worrying that my guy can't hold his own in a debate.
To: EternalVigilance
If George Allen is endorsed by Phyllis Schlafly would that change you mind about him?
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posted on
05/03/2006 11:43:12 AM PDT
by
jla
To: jla
If George Allen is endorsed by Phyllis Schlafly would that change you mind about him? No.
I don't choose candidates based on endorsements, first of all.
And secondly, even though Phyllis is one of the heroes of the pro-life movement and I have the greatest respect for her, I haven't always agreed with her choice of candidates. In 2000 she supported Steve Forbes, whose pro-life position I think was contrived.
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posted on
05/03/2006 11:49:02 AM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
To: Gelato
I'm reading that link you provided, and frankly I'm shocked.
There's a whole bunch of stuff there about George Allen's positions and priorities that I didn't know about...and it ain't flattering.
2000 U.S. Senatorial Debate - Transcript
October 22, 2000, NBC 12 Richmond, Va.
Moderator: Larry J. Sabato
Candidates: Chuck Robb (D), George Allen (R)
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/programs/debates/00_transcript.htm
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posted on
05/03/2006 11:54:14 AM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
To: jla
If George Allen is endorsed by Phyllis Schlafly would that change you mind about him? Your question deserves further remark:
I've been shocked at how many DC-based conservative leaders have been woefully ignorant of George Allen's true positions on key issues.
I hope and pray that Mrs. Schlafly will dig deeply into the facts.
Because, I believe that if she does, she will look elsewhere for a candidate for '08.
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posted on
05/03/2006 12:14:51 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
To: Crackingham
He's a moderate Republican and would be the best damn POTUS for the dangerous times we're in. He would have my vote. I think he could win by toning down the anti-gun stature he maintained before 911 but he doesn't seem as much of a anti-gun type guy nowadays after 911 now does he?
To: Bluesguy
"and if Rudy is elected president over a democRAT, there will be what noticeable difference?"
Yeah, Rudy has honor. He is a hero and was right downtown immediately after the planes hit the towers, despite potential harm to himself. He cares about the people and is down to earth. Much different then a lof of the Dems who are just pissed at the world they lost power and will do anything to get it back...
To: kingattax
"I believe that, first and foremost, we need to secure our borders. We need more border agents and detention centers along the border and we ought to be using technology, such as unmanned aerial vehicles, to help with surveillance. Secondly, we must not reward illegal behavior; rewarding illegal behavior will only encourage more illegal actions." --- Sen George Allen"
I like Allen also but I would still vote Rudy.
To: EternalVigilance
George Allen on "hate crimes": "I think that if people want to enhance punishment because of someone they harm someone because of their sexual orientation, race or religion I would support it."
"At the federal level if there is federal crime I don't mind allowing juries and judges to permit a harsher crime if it is based or race or sexual orientation or religious beliefs or gender so I think the penalties ought to be increased."
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/programs/debates/00_transcript.htm
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posted on
05/03/2006 1:24:26 PM PDT
by
Gelato
To: EternalVigilance
Not exactly the inspiring stuff you'd expect from someone who calls himself the next Ronald Reagan.
What do you suppose his call for "scientific research" could refer to? Embryonic stem cells, perhaps?
I would support medical research on embryonic stem cells that are currently frozen and could otherwise be destroyed, provided that there are strict, enforceable and ethical guidelines governing this research and medical applications
I believe funding such research may result in advancements that will save lives. -- George Allen, Richmond Times Dispatch, 7/24/01
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posted on
05/03/2006 1:37:12 PM PDT
by
Gelato
To: Gelato
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posted on
05/03/2006 1:39:17 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
To: Gelato; EternalVigilance; jla; P8riot; Howlin; onyx
Not exactly the inspiring stuff you'd expect from someone who calls himself the next Ronald Reagan. George Allen, has never, will never, would never refer(red) to himself as "the next Ronald Reagan."
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05/03/2006 1:40:27 PM PDT
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Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
He sure likes to give off that impression.
What's this? Distancing himself from George W. Bush?
That's funny, he used to like to call himself and Bush "we."
Contrasting himself with his 2000 senatorial opponent, George Allen said: "Governor Bush and I have a different vision. We trust people. We want you to have a wise and frugal government that reflects your common sense and decency and we want you to keep more of what you earn so you can build a better life for you yourself and your children."
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posted on
05/03/2006 1:45:31 PM PDT
by
Gelato
To: Gelato; EternalVigilance
He sure likes to give off that impression. Agreeing with or following someone's philosophy of government is not quite the same as claiming to be their heir apparent.
As for "distancing himself from George W. Bush" I really think that a couple of Keisters wouldn't want to go down that road.
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posted on
05/03/2006 1:48:16 PM PDT
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Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
In 2000, Allen and Bush were "we."
Suddenly, with the president's approval at an all-time low, Allen "describes himself" as more in sync with Reagan than with Bush.
Allen wants us to believe that he is more conservative than Bush, when in actuality he is more liberal on the issue of abortion, and has identical rhetoric with the president on the borders.
One thing's for sure: he ain't no Reagan.
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posted on
05/03/2006 1:52:45 PM PDT
by
Gelato
To: Gelato
We want you to have a wise and frugal government... I wonder what ever happened to that?
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posted on
05/03/2006 1:53:58 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
To: EternalVigilance
Promises easily made in politics are easily broken, aren't they?
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posted on
05/03/2006 1:54:47 PM PDT
by
Gelato
To: Corin Stormhands
Here he is again, distancing himself from George W. Bush and painting himself as Ronald Reagan.
George Allen is a serious contender for the Republican nomination for president. A former governor, he wears cowboy boots and can often be found outside with his can of dip. Consequently, some Republicans like Allen, because he seems the most like George W. Busha charge Allen cant quite understand, and frankly, rejects. "I dont know why people say that," he said. "My two role models are Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan. Most people who know me think Im most like Ronald Reagan." http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/EliotPeace/2006/03/28/191475.html
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posted on
05/03/2006 2:07:32 PM PDT
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Gelato
To: Gelato
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posted on
05/03/2006 2:08:09 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
To: Corin Stormhands; Gelato
Corin Stormhands:
George Allen, has never, will never, would never refer(red) to himself as "the next Ronald Reagan." George Allen: Most people who know me think Im most like Ronald Reagan."
Touchdown!
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posted on
05/03/2006 2:10:15 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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