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Giuliani Shows a Candidate's Mettle to Republicans in Iowa
NY Times ^ | 5/2/6 | Patrick Healy

Posted on 05/02/2006 9:42:32 AM PDT by Crackingham

Former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said on Monday that he was seriously exploring whether he has "a chance" of winning the presidency in 2008, as he visited politically important Iowa and huddled with state advisers, donors to President Bush and other prominent Republicans. While Mr. Giuliani was officially in Iowa to attend two Republican fund-raisers, his behavior and remarks came close to politicking for himself. He ruminated openly about running, disclosed he was not sure what he would do if his friend John McCain also ran, and argued that if Republicans are to be a majority party, they need to accept politicians like himself who support abortion rights, gay rights and gun control.

"I've got a lot of places to go and a lot of people to talk to and a long process of figuring out whether it makes sense to run for president in 2008," Mr. Giuliani said before speaking at a daytime fund-raiser in Des Moines for a Republican congressional candidate. "I don't know the answer to that yet."

He added: "My effort this year will be to help Republicans get elected, and then, quite honestly, as part of it, saying to myself, does it look like I have a chance in 2008? And make that decision after the 2006 election."

At a fund-raiser in Davenport on Monday night, Mr. Giuliani offered a stout defense of President Bush's leadership, arguing that the economy was growing and that Mr. Bush would go down in history as "a great president."

"I don't know what we're all so upset about," he said, referring to concerns about the economy and rising costs, such as gas prices.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
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To: Bluesguy
"and if Rudy is elected president over a democRAT, there will be what noticeable difference?"

- Well, I suppose for starters he wouldn't steal the White House china.
121 posted on 05/02/2006 1:40:28 PM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Corin Stormhands

Okie dokie. Thanks. Gonna hit the road now, will be back later.


122 posted on 05/02/2006 1:45:53 PM PDT by P8riot
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To: Liz

"Rudy is the most self-serving politician extant today"

This is such an outrageous statement, that I stopped reading beyond this point.


123 posted on 05/02/2006 1:54:59 PM PDT by Proud Conservative2 ("When people show you who they are...BELIEVE THEM the first time..." Maya Angelou)
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To: The Mayor

Giuliani is more "likable" than Hillary, and he does look better in heels.
But those calves of his could use some lipo.

124 posted on 05/02/2006 2:06:07 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Grampa Dave; martin_fierro
TIME-TESTED PHOTO-OPS DESTINED TO SINK YOUR CANDIDACY


"My smile is more presidential than Hillary's."


"Would you believe this was my idea?"


"Man, I love photo-ops that make me look commanding."


"Hello there. You're my date for tonight."

125 posted on 05/02/2006 2:14:40 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Liz

You just ruined my dinner, and it was at least 3+ hours away.


126 posted on 05/02/2006 3:10:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Crackingham
I've never been impressed by Rudy.

But, frankly, if he can convince conservatives that he's "wised up" and will sincerely represent their interests...

Obviously he has a very, very tough road.

Good to see him campaigning for Republican candidates- that may get him a cabinet post anyway.

127 posted on 05/02/2006 3:18:08 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Grampa Dave

Sorry 'bout that....LOL.


128 posted on 05/02/2006 3:47:11 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: P8riot

"During his term as governor Virginia became a "shall issue" concealed carry state, meaning that the state has to issue you a concealed carry permit, unless you are specifically legally prohibited from posessing a weapon. No justification is required to any local authority either."



Our then Democrat Gov got this shoved down his throat too, and he hated it....So in all fairness, someone could say the same of him.

Please don't take this personally, but I have no idea who you are or why I should take what an unknown stranger tells me to the bank. I do appreciate your effort. It's just not enough to satisfy me at this point.


129 posted on 05/02/2006 4:01:46 PM PDT by Proud Conservative2 ("When people show you who they are...BELIEVE THEM the first time..." Maya Angelou)
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To: Proud Conservative2; P8riot
So in all fairness, someone could say the same of him.

Well, they ~could~ say it. But they'd be wrong.

130 posted on 05/02/2006 4:40:27 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Proud Conservative2; Corin Stormhands
Please don't take this personally, but I have no idea who you are or why I should take what an unknown stranger tells me to the bank. I do appreciate your effort. It's just not enough to satisfy me at this point.

No offense taken, and a little bit of skepticism is healthy. However, I challenge you to do some objective research on the subject and find out for yourself. I can only relate to you what I know of first hand.

131 posted on 05/02/2006 5:21:30 PM PDT by P8riot
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To: spunkets
Granted, Giuliani's take on social issues leaves something to be desired, but ponder this: without national security -- the REAL kind, with full control of both borders and no delusions about the tea-towels -- abortion and gun control could become moot points in a New York minute.

Put another way, domestic squabbles don't mean a damn thing when the guy in charge lets the other chaps turn your domus into a socialist workers' paradise... or a smoking hole in the ground.

132 posted on 05/02/2006 5:36:53 PM PDT by Tenniel ("Whenever a man casts a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct." -- T. Jefferson)
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To: Liz

Boy what a suprise you pinged me to..


133 posted on 05/02/2006 6:06:43 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: P8riot

Thanks for understanding. As for the research, I have been doing searches to find the answers to my questions.


134 posted on 05/02/2006 6:11:22 PM PDT by Proud Conservative2 ("When people show you who they are...BELIEVE THEM the first time..." Maya Angelou)
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To: Tenniel

Personally I think folks give Giuliani entirely too much credit for security. It took a lot more than one man to handle things after 9/11, and he didn't clean up NYC single handedly either.


135 posted on 05/02/2006 6:11:25 PM PDT by P8riot
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To: Proud Conservative2
You're welcome. I don't take things at face value either, and I have little regard for opinions that are not thought out.

Best regards,

P8riot

136 posted on 05/02/2006 6:14:55 PM PDT by P8riot
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To: P8riot
Allen is very pro 2nd Amendment.

How do you explain his long-time support for the "Assault Weapons Ban"?

137 posted on 05/02/2006 6:19:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: HitmanLV; Corin Stormhands

I'm with you on this subject, and until a better candidate shows up Rudy looks pretty good to me. We need someone not only capable to communicate well, but someone who inspires confidence and effectiveness. Slick is the equivalent of a smooth operator, and that's one impression I don't get when talking about Rudy. He's straight shooter and, right or wrong one knows what he stands for.


138 posted on 05/02/2006 6:33:32 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Serious question for Allen supporters: what is his appeal? he strikes me as a reasonably pleasant and articulate mainstream Republican

You've answered your own question.

139 posted on 05/02/2006 6:43:41 PM PDT by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: The Mayor

LOL. Next time I'll warn you in advance, OK?


140 posted on 05/02/2006 6:51:31 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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