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Chicago's Mob Rule
SMARTMONEY.COM ^ | 1 May 2006 | Jonathan Hoenig

Posted on 05/01/2006 10:26:46 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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To: CSM
Michigan has banned smoking within 6 feet of all workplace entrances and smoking in all workplaces, except restaurants and bars. We all know what's next.....

Why are they doing this to people who choose to smoke?  I know the people who are rich and well known have no problems smoking where ever and when ever they want.  But the rest of us are left out here flapping in the wind.  They are treating us like the lowest form of life.

If smoking and second hand smoke is so bad, they should have just pulled cigarettes off of the shelves.  But the states are craving the cigarette tax money so they won't do that.

And what with big coalitions out there like the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation handing out big money to every state that makes life miserable for smokers, the more money the state will receive from said group.

21 posted on 05/02/2006 6:29:36 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Gabz
B. I. T. S.
22 posted on 05/02/2006 6:31:42 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SheLion
If smoking and second hand smoke is so bad, they should have just pulled cigarettes off of the shelves. But the states are craving the cigarette tax money so they won't do that.

Excellent point. I called my alderman(Chicago) and asked the exact same thing. The response was that they didn't want to ban the sale of cigarettes because it is a legal product. What a joke. It's legal to own the product but not to use it.

23 posted on 05/02/2006 6:38:16 AM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: SheLion; Gabz

What a hell-hole chicago has become. This is insane. I was there years ago for Martin-Senour paint school, it didn't seem that bad. They must be taking the express-lane down the toilet now.


24 posted on 05/02/2006 6:41:06 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who chose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

making it illegal to smoke cigarettes — a legal substance — in any bar or restaurant within city limits



You can still smoke in a lot of bars.


25 posted on 05/02/2006 6:45:24 AM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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To: razorback-bert

Jeeze .. that is unreal. Don't preserve your town's integrity, just start auctioning off property.


26 posted on 05/02/2006 6:52:05 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: bfree
Excellent point. I called my alderman(Chicago) and asked the exact same thing. The response was that they didn't want to ban the sale of cigarettes because it is a legal product. What a joke. It's legal to own the product but not to use it.

Cigarettes are the only known product on the market today where it is legal to buy and yet we are made to feel like criminals for using it.  Does this make sense to anybody??

And why is the media and the anti's continually allowed to spew the big lie that second hand smoke is killing everyone, when the WHO and the Ornal Study has completely disowned any connection of death with second hand smoke?!

ETS is NOT a killer!  It is NOT killing everyone! 

And what with all that smog out in California along with the smokers, common sense would tell us that there shouldn't be a soul alive in that state today.

27 posted on 05/02/2006 6:56:13 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Blackirish

"You can still smoke in a lot of bars."

Can you freep me a list of them? I'd like to keep them in mind for my trip this summer. Thanks.


28 posted on 05/02/2006 7:02:41 AM PDT by CSM (I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
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To: Onelifetogive
Anyone who objects, can find another state.

High Point, NC is hosting the Furniture Market this week.

All those yankees sure like smoking in our bars.

29 posted on 05/02/2006 7:09:35 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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High Point, NC is hosting the Furniture Market this week.

All those yankees sure like smoking in our bars.

I was in NC a few years back for business. There was this seafood restuarant where I really wanted to eat. I drove up to the restuarant and there was a big crowd waiting outside the door. I thought, "Geeeeez, I don't want to wait an hour for dinner. Well, at least I'll check and see how long the wait is..." I went up to the hostess desk, and they seated me right away in Non-Smoking. There were empty tables all around me.........

30 posted on 05/02/2006 7:19:25 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Freerepublic - The website where "Freepers" is not in the spell checker dictionary...)
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To: Onelifetogive

Something for everybody!


31 posted on 05/02/2006 7:30:44 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: CSM
Michigan has banned smoking within 6 feet of all workplace entrances and smoking in all workplaces, except restaurants and bars.

I'd like to see a link confirming this please.

32 posted on 05/02/2006 7:56:21 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander

Which one? I do need to clarify, the 6 feet from entrances rule is in Wayne County.


33 posted on 05/02/2006 8:04:37 AM PDT by CSM (I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
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To: bfree
No wonder I am looking for a nice place to retire to in a few years. Any suggestions?

So far so good here on the Eastern Shore of Virginia :)

If you like fishing, and FReedom, you can't beat it. I live 9 miles from the Chesapeake Bay and 15 from the Atlantic.

34 posted on 05/02/2006 8:05:44 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: Just another Joe

I am afraid it's not going to come to that, unless we get more smokers up off their duffs to do or at least say something.


35 posted on 05/02/2006 8:07:21 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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All those yankees sure like smoking in our bars.

You've got that right. The restaurant/bar owners we've gotten to know since moving here 3 years ago have seen a huge increase in business from people that used to vacation in Delaware, and now make the extra 75 miles down to this part of Virginia instead.........all because of the smoking ban in Delaware.

I started tending bar at the local Moose Lodge last week and had a couple come in Saturday night from Pennsylvania. They recently got a place here for their weekends and vacations after getting rid of the place they had at the beach in Delaware - why, because the only places they felt comfortable in was the Moose or VFW, which are among the very few places you can smoke in Delaware.

36 posted on 05/02/2006 8:14:42 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: Gabz
It's not just the smokers that it will come from.
Eventually someone/something will push too far and it will come from a much greater proportion of the population than just smokers.
37 posted on 05/02/2006 8:20:22 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: CSM
Which one?

Any of it.

38 posted on 05/02/2006 8:25:32 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Just another Joe

As much as I dislike saying it - I hope you are right.


39 posted on 05/02/2006 8:37:12 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: michigander

Wayne County (MI) Clean Indoor Air Regulation (http://waynecounty.com/hhSvcs/environ/cleanIndoorAir.htm) effective June 15 2005, smoking at worksites in Wayne County, Michigan and within six feet of any worksite facility entrance, window or ventilation system is prohibited.


40 posted on 05/02/2006 8:49:26 AM PDT by CSM (I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
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