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Steve Westly's Speech at the CA Dem Convention
Westly 2006 ^ | April 29, 2006 | Steve Westly

Posted on 04/29/2006 9:00:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion
nobody could do more conservative things, than Arnold is doing, because the CA Legislature is overwhelmintly Democrat.

Since you don't understand the legislative process or how a bill becomes a law,(based on your silly statement above) it would be a waste of time then for me to explain what Pete Wilson and George Deukmejian did when faced with similarly overwhelmingly Democrat legislatures.

21 posted on 04/29/2006 9:43:46 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: JennysCool
I know that bedrock conservative principle is one that guides him

Does it guide him in how he drives his car? or raises his kids? or orders at a restaurant? Because it sure doesn't guide him in how he governs, which is what we elected him to do. Wouldn't it be great if he would step aside and then travel the state giving conservative speeches, and let someone run who would actually GOVERN as a conservative?

22 posted on 04/29/2006 9:46:32 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: FairOpinion

Attempting to carry on in the tradition of Gray Dufas.


23 posted on 04/29/2006 9:50:32 PM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Have a good weekend.


24 posted on 04/29/2006 9:51:25 PM PDT by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: FairOpinion

Anyone who admires the acumen of Jimmy Carter is highly suspect.


25 posted on 04/29/2006 9:51:25 PM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: FairOpinion

Isn't he involved in George Soros money too somewhere? Or am I mistaken?


26 posted on 04/29/2006 9:57:07 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: AmeriBrit

"Isn't he involved in George Soros money too somewhere? Or am I mistaken?"

I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised.


27 posted on 04/29/2006 10:17:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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It amazes me how everyone wants the President or Governor to do everything their way 100%. Never any thought to the meaning "You can't please all of the people all of the time".

If I held either position, which I know I never will, if some bill I wanted passed but knew it wasn't going to have an earthly chance in it's entirety, I would give a little and get as much in the bill approved as possible. This IMO is what the President and Governor have both done trying to keep everyone happy but there are those here who act like little spoiled kids and call them derogatory names because it has to be their way 100% or "throw them out of office", or "I'm going to vote 3rd party" blah, blah, blah!. As they demonstrated in the last Special Election, those with the biggest and loudest voices didn't even get off their butts and go and vote.
28 posted on 04/29/2006 10:21:39 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: FairOpinion; ElkGroveDan
Please explain how a candidate can be elected with 34% of the votes.

Probably the same way its been done for decades.

Year   Elected                Vote %  Repub Regis %
1966   Ronald Reagan           57.6%     40.2%
1970   Ronald Reagan           52.8%     39.8%
1982   George Deukmejian       50.6%     34.9%
1986   George Deukmejian       61.0%     38.3%
1990   Pete Wilson             48.7%     39.3%
1994   Pete Wilson             55.3%     37.2%
2003   Arnold Schwarzenegger   48.6%     35.2%
Give people something to vote FOR and you'll have a better chance.
Awful, Awfuler, and Awfullest is not much of a choice at the ballot box.
29 posted on 04/30/2006 6:41:57 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion

You left out John Kerry. ;)
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True! And that is an egregious oversight!!! My bad!!


30 posted on 04/30/2006 6:43:13 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: FairOpinion; ElkGroveDan
... the fact that independents are more likely to lean toward Democrats than Republicans (42% to 28%) tends to work to the disadvantage of the GOP in statewide elections."

PPIC seems to be basing this "fact" on what people say, not how they vote. Statistics do not support this "fact" in gubernatorial races.

Year   Elected       Party  % of Vote |     Registration Percent
                                      |   Repub   Democ   All Other
1966   Reagan           Rep   57.6%   |   40.2%   56.6%    3.2%
1970   Reagan           Rep   52.8%   |   39.8%   54.9%    5.2%
1974   Brown            Dem   50.1%   |   36.0%   56.6%    7.4%
1978   Brown            Dem   56.0%   |   34.2%   56.6%    9.2%
1982   Deukmejian       Rep   50.6%   |   34.9%   53.2%   11.9%
1986   Deukmejian       Rep   61.0%   |   38.3%   50.8%   10.9%
1990   Wilson           Rep   48.7%   |   39.3%   49.5%   11.2%
1994   Wilson           Rep   55.3%   |   37.2%   49.0%   13.8%
1998   Davis            Dem   58.0%   |   35.5%   46.7%   17.8%
2002   Davis            Dem   47.3%   |   35.2%   44.6%   20.2%
2003   Schwarzenegger   Rep   48.6%   |   35.2%   44.6%   20.2%

31 posted on 04/30/2006 6:44:00 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: AmeriBrit
It amazes me how everyone wants the President or Governor to do everything their way 100%. Never any thought to the meaning "You can't please all of the people all of the time".

Nice straw man, will you be putting a hat on him too?

Arnold is seeking the nomination of a party. It is his responsibility to ACT like a member fo that Party. It's not too much to ask.

32 posted on 04/30/2006 8:06:22 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: AmeriBrit
in the last Special Election, those with the biggest and loudest voices didn't even get off their butts and go and vote.

Gosh I missed that part. Do you have any names? I made a lot of noise and I have a loud voice. I voted and so did everyone I know.

The people who stayed home were the busy average people who were never given any sense of urgency to go vote for some pretty arcane concepts in an unscheduled election. Blame the bearer of the message, not the citizens minding their own business.

33 posted on 04/30/2006 8:09:50 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: calcowgirl

You just made my point for me: the ONLY way a candidate can get elected in CA statewide, if he appeals to OTHER voters ( Dems and Independents), IN ADDITION TO Republicans.

The discussion was about the Republicans nominating someone so conservative, who wouldn't even get all the Republican votes, and would get NO Dem or Independent votes -- hence he is clearly UNELECTABLE.

The kind of Republicans, such as Wilson and Schwarzenegger, who actually can get elected in CA, because they can get some independent and Dem votes, are being constantly bashed by people claiming to be conservatives.


34 posted on 04/30/2006 10:03:15 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

WRONG! Schwarzenegger campaigned and gained popularity on a CONSERVATIVE platform of CUTTING SPENDING, getting Special Interests out of Sacramento, cutting the size of Government (blowing up boxes), etc.

Instead of actually doing this, he has morphed into a liberal to the point it is hard to distinguish him from his supposed opponents. Deukmejian and Reagan did not do this and they won by bigger percentages than either Wilson or Schwarzenegger.

Again: Give people something to vote FOR and you'll have a better chance. Abandoning the Republican platform for the big-spend, big-borrow, pro-gun-control, pro-GLBT, pro-abort, liberal judicial appointments, big-green agenda is NOT the way to reform California. He may win, but conservatives and Republicans gain little.




35 posted on 04/30/2006 10:14:18 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

"the big-spend, big-borrow, pro-gun-control, pro-GLBT, pro-abort, liberal judicial appointments, big-green agenda "

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There you go again, MISREPRESENTING Arnold's positions.

Arnold VETOED the homosexual marriage bill, he vetoed the drivers licenses for illegals bill, he promoted Prop. 76, to reign in spending (which YOU voted AGAINST), he appointed over 50% Republican judges, his environmental agenda is based on voluntary cooperation, instead of mandatory one, as that of the Democrats, Arnold also prevented the Dems from raising taxes.

Both Angelides and Westly are on record saying that they WILL SIGN a bill giving drivers licenses to illegals, WILL SIGN a bill for homosexual marriage, WILL sign a bill to make environmental compliance mandatory, both are FOR raising taxes, and increasing spending "for the children".

So let's see, which is more in line with conservative principles, Arnold or the Dems.

It's pretty clear.

So why are you still advocating voting AGAINST Arnold, which WILL RESULT in a DEM getting elected with the above platform?


36 posted on 04/30/2006 12:03:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
There you go again, MISREPRESENTING Arnold's positions.

ROFL! Your blind allegiance is predictable, but you fail to acknowledge the facts.

Arnold VETOED the homosexual marriage bill, he vetoed the drivers licenses for illegals bill,

He passed the most progressive GLBT legislation this state has seen with special rights for gays in property taxes, pensions and other--and of course the Unruh Civil Rights Bill. Who needs marriage when they get all the special rights anyway?

he promoted Prop. 76, to reign in spending (which YOU voted AGAINST),

It did not reign in spending -- it authorized even MORE borrowing.

he appointed over 50% Republican judges

When 80-90% is the normal expectation, I wouldn't tout this as a plus, FO. More GLBTers on the bench, along with Villaraigosa's sister, personal injury lawyers, defense attorneys, etc.

his environmental agenda is based on voluntary cooperation, instead of mandatory one, as that of the Democrats, Arnold also prevented the Dems from raising taxes.

That is laughable! His $3 Billion dollar solar roofs plan is voluntary? How about those hydrogen highways? You mean I won't have to pay taxes or fees on my power bill to subsidize this cr@p? His program for global warming is not voluntary--it is moving to a cap and trade program with his "voluntary" guidelines being a basis for new legislation.

So why are you still advocating voting AGAINST Arnold...

I am not advocating against Arnold. I am advocating FOR the Republican platform and Conservatism. I believe that elected representatives should be held accountable to the platform on which they ran and the party to which they chose to associate themselves with. When they act like a liberal and govern like a democrat, I will speak out. If Republicans don't hold their politicians accountable, who will, the Democrats? I think not.

37 posted on 04/30/2006 12:26:07 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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