Hamad Mir - "Terrorists will Use Nukes in America if U.S. Bombs Iran!"

Terrorism Press COnference ^ | 4-28-06 | Bob J

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "Without Mecca, Islam is over... no more black rock idol to pray to every day... proving to them and the whole world that their false pagan god is not omnipotent..."

You probably didn't see my previous comments on this subject. To start off, I would agree that to destroy their black stone symbol (of such importance) would be extremely significant to the Islamics and it would destroy their faith in their false god -- Allah.

But, what I was answering back on -- in reference to deterrence was that to threaten to wipe out the entire city or region with nukes is not going to result in deterrence. In fact, I would argue strongly against doing that with nukes.

I've always said that Islam needs to be destroyed, as it's an evil and false religion that is leading the entire world to war. It's being done on their side, not ours. We're responding to attacks. We'll continue responding to attacks forever, as long as we leave that false and evil religion in place. What we need to do is destroy it all -- all the mosques, kill all the clerics who teach this kind of evil religion and teach their people to attack others for their religion, and destroy all the important and significant holy places. Grind them all to dust and blow them away. That's not nuking entire regions. That's destroying that evil religion. That's what we need to do.

Then, yes..., the people will see, after a short while, that they've been lied to and misled by their evil clerics. They will see that their so-called "god" -- Allah -- is false and is of no consequence. In fact, we probably need to laugh at the destruction of their evil religion -- in the same way that Elijah laughed at the false prophets of Baal -- and then had them all killed when they couldn't "summon" their so-called "god". Do the same to Islam, as Elijah did to the prophets of Baal.

Now..., as to proving to the whole world that their false pagan god is not omnipotent -- I don't know if that's going to make too much of a difference. The real difference for most of the world is going to be destroying the *basis* for the terrorism -- in that name of that evil religion. That's going to be of significance to most of the world.

I would think that most of the world doesn't really care that those crazy Islamics believe in a false god. They only care that they're carrying out crazy acts of terrorism against the rest of the world. That has to stop.

As for a small group of Christians (in the world) who do know that the true God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob -- then it might make a difference -- but not to the rest of the world. They'll just appreciate getting rid of the *basis* for terrorism in the name of that evil religion of Islam.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Star Traveler]

Well..., more info on nukes here in the U.S.

Despite *repeated denials* on some here on Free Republic, more and more information is coming out about al-Qaida having nukes. And, I can't see why anyone would doubt their desire to bring them into the U.S. and set them off.

However, we keep getting "denial, denial and more denial" from certain segments on Free Republic. Who know why they want to "put everyone to sleep" on the issue of nukes in the U.S. at the hands of al-Qaida.

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From G2 Bulletin --

MI6, Britain's secret intelligence service, has identified six Pakistani scientists working in Iran's nuclear bomb program who have been "advising al-Qaida on how to weaponize fissionable materials it has now obtained."

MI6 and the International Atomic Energy Agency believe the scientists have played a major role in enabling Iran to be "well advanced in providing uranium enriched materials for nuclear bombs," said Alexander Cirilovic, a nuclear terrorism expert in Paris.

Both high-level MI6 and CIA sources have confirmed the scientists would only have been allowed to assist al-Qaida with the authority of Iran's unpredictable President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The revelation comes at a time when Washington has increased pressure on Tehran to give up its nuclear weapons program.

The scientists worked for Dr. A.Q. Khan, the "father of the Islamic bomb," who is now under house arrest in Pakistan after confessing he had provided both Iran and North Korea with details of how to make their own nuclear bombs.

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The story keeps getting more interesting all the time.

I suppose that the only time those in *denial* will finally "see the light" will be when one of those nukes goes off here in the U.S.

Well..., maybe...

They'll probaby deny it was al-Qaida -- and that it was just a mistake of our own military. Their denial is that deep.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[mjaneangels@aolcom]

"P. Williams shot that argument down. It is all about planning, coordination, and getting them in the country."

That makes no sense. Al Qeada has been attacking us for close to 15 years. Do you believe that they haven't used nukes on us because they haven't finished planning, they are still coordinating, or because they haven't gotten them (the nukes) in the country yet? If they haven't gotten that done yet, either they can not, and I have a significant problem believing that prior to 9/11/2001, or they don't have them.

"Also thy have to follow Sahria Law. Thy must get essentially the "blessing" or the go ahead from a cleric or a number of clerics to OK the slaughter of innocent, non-combatives. They also must allow for a truce or submission. If this is ignored or refused the attitude is "well we covered all of our bases. The West has no one to blame but themselves." Kind of like the last few tapes that were out."

They got the blessing for 9/11/2001 and can not get it now? With nukes?

They have never called for nor allowed any opportunity for a truce/submission. They hide in caves. They don't want to negotiate. They do not want a truce, they do not even want submission. They want us DEAD.

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "That makes no sense. Al Qeada has been attacking us for close to 15 years. Do you believe that they haven't used nukes on us because they haven't finished planning, they are still coordinating, or because they haven't gotten them (the nukes) in the country yet? If they haven't gotten that done yet, either they can not, and I have a significant problem believing that prior to 9/11/2001, or they don't have them."

It makes sense if you realize that they're not about "shooting from the hip" the first chance they get. I read somewhere that al-Qaida has been working on the nukes (the whole plan and all that it entails) since 1995. And also, I read somewhere that they were going to use these nukes for a very large and coordinated attack on the U.S. -- in conjunction with something going on in the Middle East at the same time.

So, that would mean that they would employ other methods of terror attacks (just like they have done) -- while still working on all the facets (of what it's going to take) for this *very large and devastating attack* on the U.S. -- in conjunction for whatever they have in mind for the Middle East (which probably involves Israel and eliminating it).

It makes a lot of sense to me -- unless you just think that they are a "shoot-from-the-hip" group, consisting of people who are totally undisciplined.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Ulysse]

No peace possible with islamists.It will be harder bif we waste a precious time as we did in europe with Hitler,as we did with russian revolution Lenin and Stalin...
Freedom is still not free

[Erik Latranyi]

If Al Qaeda brings nukes into this country, it will be the end of Bush and the Republican party.

They lose all credibility on national defense in a single act.

[repubzilla]

People just don't get it. You are right on with your comments. people think the terrorists are a bunch of yahoos who would get all excited about getting a nuke and immediatly blow it off. That would only hurt us on a relative low scale. Why would they not wait to make a huge impact?

these are patient and VERY religious people. They are not "shoot from the hip".

People don't get the idea as to why they need Sharia "blessing/go ahead" God folks, look it up yourself-not all Muslims are killers (as much as we like to think), all Osama has is his fierce devotion to Allah, Jihad, and the Koran...He NEEDS to get Mullahs to OK an attack-not all of them just a few to justify. And he almost got in bad trouble over 9/11 due to this lack of religious OK. Some religious leaders were against it. Geez-all it takes is a little research!!!!

People still think we are dealing with dumb street thugs...better wake up!!!

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

We'll continue responding to attacks forever, as long as we leave that false and evil religion in place. What we need to do is destroy it all -- all the mosques, kill all the clerics who teach this kind of evil religion and teach their people to attack others for their religion, and destroy all the important and significant holy places. Grind them all to dust and blow them away. That's not nuking entire regions. That's destroying that evil religion. That's what we need to do.

I agree with you Maccabaeus, 110%... daisy cutters would work just fine...

[FreedomNeocon]

FYI: There were some postings at LGF by readers, not sure if authentic, but law enforcment in FL were getting tons of notice to be on the lookout for ME men buying cell-phones. Old story, but post indicated there was a large surge yesterday.

[FreedomNeocon]

If Al Qaeda brings nukes into this country, it will be the end of Bush and the Republican party.

They lose all credibility on national defense in a single act.

Oh jeez... don't talk so stupid.

Right... because people will realize how much MORE secure they feel with democrats.

Or wait.. they will feel more secure without any elected gov't is that right?

"You people" crack me up...

[Old_Mil]

Oh jeez... don't talk so stupid. Right... because people will realize how much MORE secure they feel with democrats. Or wait.. they will feel more secure without any elected gov't is that right? "You people" crack me up...

What is it that prevents you from grasping the concept that large numbers of people may actually vote for a party that isn't named "Republican" or "Democrat", especially given an extreme form of motivation such as the nuking of an American city?

[RightWhale]

P. Williams shot that argument down.

Not worth the time to listen to, unless looking for a dose of paranoia.

[infidel29]

Al-Qaeda will use smuggled nukes against the US if the US takes military action against Iran.

...and Iran will use their own nukes if we don't bomb them.

Either way, we're getting nuked, we might as well take some Islamo-swine with us.

[unseen]

If they wait they can throw suspicion onto Iran and cause us to question the true actors. If a nuke goes off in the USA it will be the end of the muslim religion.

[mjaneangels@aolcom]

"It makes a lot of sense to me -- unless you just think that they are a "shoot-from-the-hip" group, consisting of people who are totally undisciplined.

Regards,
Star Traveler"

No, I don't think they are shoot-from-the-hip, nor undisciplined. I think of the 1993 WTC bombing. They wanted to knock one tower into the other and they failed. On 9/11/01 they wanted to cause 50,000 or more deaths, they failed. Also, project Bojinka was stopped before any harm came.

I think they do do planning, coordinating and work on getting the nukes, or other weapons, into this country, but they have come up way short of their goals in the past. I have to wonder if the "management" is fairly disciplined, but I do not think the lower level personnel are. This would explain the extravagent plans that fail, or are minimized or are found out and prevented. I really don't think they have nukes. I do think they plan and coordinate etc, but I also think if they had them, they, at the least, would have ensured they were in this country before 9/11/01 since they did not know what our response was going to be, so they did not know if there would be a path to get them in, much less know what path would work. Way too risky after 9/11/01.

[Williams]

What a load of dung.

[Williams]

To be more specific, the childish nonsense on here that a billion believers in a religion will abandon it because you bomb their shrine. What utter childish nonsense. Like I will abandon Catholicism if Al Queda nukes the Vatican? Oh, I forgot, I'm sure that to the posters of these brilliant theories I also worship a "False God." Because you all have sat around and figured out the one true religion revealed in Scripture. Give me a giant break.

[NAVY84]

Good plan, one minor problem.

PETA