if the GoatHumpers had one... they'd use it.
Posted on 04/28/2006 9:03:39 AM PDT by Bob J
if the GoatHumpers had one... they'd use it.
You said -- "In short, you'd backstab our allies and turn 1.6 Billion people against us for no good reason save that you are afraid of your own shadow."
Bargains with the devil (making Islam your ally) will never work in the long run. The only thing going on is each side is eyeing the other as they each tell lies to each other -- waiting for the right time to abandon the "lying alliance" and attack. It only buys time and nothing more. Islam is good at this kind of alliance or agreement or treaty. They are all "fronts" -- each a different "part" of the same war with Islam. We do not have a war on "terror". Terror is a *tool* of Islam. We don't go into battle having a "war on tanks"; we have a war with the enemy. The *war* is definitely with Islam. There's no question about it.
Islam is our enemy. It will always be our enemy. Consorting with the enemy is the strategy of hoping to gain the upper hand (while the other side is doing the same thing). Two enemies slapping each other on the back, waiting for the right time to "back-stab" each other.
The back-stabbing will take place (one side or the other) will take place soon enough. They are each waiting for the proper time. The only question is who gets to stab who -- first.
Of those Muslims in the world, a certain significant number will be more than willing to get the yoke of Islam off their neck. It's oppressive, evil and nothing less than Satanic.
I would dare to say -- frankly, for you to defend a Satanic religion over and above the good of the United States definitely makes you an enemy of the U.S.
In addition, all the writing you have done, heretofore, on this matter -- is designed to do nothing less than to pooh-pooh any danger of Islam to the U.S., that we have no danger to be concerned about, that what people say is possible (with al-Qaida's designs in this "war") is really not possible -- all this is clearly designed to put people to sleep and *not be concerned* about any of this.
Anyone who does this is an enemy of the United States -- of the first order.
You don't happen to be in the employ of CAIR, by chance? Well..., of course, what a stupid question, I ask! Why would anyone ever admit to such a thing... Excuse me for asking.
At the very least you would be a distant relative of CAIR -- or compatriots, if you will.
I have confidence that a lot of people here see through your details and "dis"-information -- to see the true enemy of Islam that you constantly "defend in the negative".
We are going to have an informed people and have them be aware of what the *enemy* is doing -- that enemy being Islam and especially Osama bin Laden and all like him. And also, apparently you, too, in your deflection away from being aware of these enemies.
I should ask you what you are so afraid of? Apparently you are afraid of people becoming aware of these things. I have to definitely wonder why you have the fear of this...
Regards,
Star Traveler
You said -- "I have to disagree. They lost a huge amount of their funding, two countries and tens of thousands of their lives for their trouble and have had Uncle Sam breathing down their sorry necks ever since. No, they are not smart. Any fool can destroy, what have they built?"
You're looking at it in Western eyes. You think of "building things" of improvement, of progress -- of having "accomplished something".
*Destruction* is the name of the game -- and more precisely our destruction and Israel's destruction. For them, out of destruction comes "their progress". Destruction is progress...
Regards,
Star Traveler
Then you are too blinded by fear to realize that North Korea is not Islamic...and is in fact vastly more hostile to the U.S. than is Turkey (NATO ally for half a century), Kuwait, and the UAE.
Hamid Karzai is our ally in Afghanistan. Allawi is our ally in Iraq. You'd throw our allies under the first bus, while ignoring the athiest Commies in North Korea.
Thus, your priorities are warped by your overriding fear. Someone or something scared you silly, and your posts reflect it as they make no logical sense on their own.
Fortunately you aren't in charge of anything. Instead, the adults are in charge and doing a fine job of managing the war on terror (no new 9/11 attacks here, Taliban left to hide in caves, Hussein in jail, Libya's WMD program surrendered to us, Syria's army out of Lebanon, etc.).
[ cue Osama's cave-hiding voice: ] "Now if we can just forge documents that give us permission to sneak a tactical nuke into the U.S. ...
[ /Osama's cave-hiding voice ]
You said -- "Then you are too blinded by fear to realize that North Korea is not Islamic...and is in fact vastly more hostile to the U.S. than is Turkey (NATO ally for half a century), Kuwait, and the UAE."
Who said anything about North Korea being Islamic? Are you sure you are reading my posts?
On the other hand, it appears you're throwing in North Korea to simply side-step the Islamic problem. The U.S. may have several enemies (which it obviously does). With North Korea we know where they are. They are a state with a fixed location. And they're a problem that has been on the table for 50 years.
With Islam, we have a problem which is stateless and crosses many boundaries. They do, however, consider themselves to be part of the "Nation of Islam" which transcends normal state boundaries. Islam is a state and a religion as they don't separate the two. Those Islamic terrorists are intent on creating a world-wide government under Islam. They will do it by terroristic means, as they have already shown.
They have made the *determination* (that's the decision) and the *details* will follow that determination and decision -- no matter what it is that they intend to do.
They have already shown what they can do -- and that was already a disaster here in the United States. They have engaged in countless acts of terror. We have heard from them that they are intent on bringing in nuclear bombs to this country and blowing them up.
We have our own officials in the United States admitting that we are going to have another major terrorist attack. They are apparently preparing for the aftermath of it. They do not deny that this will happen.
We have others who write articles about such things (many articles) and just this weekend (as we were talking about) -- we have a symposium with prestigious speakers in Arlington, Virginia -- discussing the terrorism that comes from Islam and understanding Islam. We have many speakers around the country talking about this and helping people become knowledgeable about the terrorists that come from Islam.
Anyone who wants to hide their head in the sand and deny that all this is relevent and all this is not something to consider and act upon -- is obviously not working with the country's best interests at heart.
Islam is the problem; it is the source; it is the foundation of the problem, from which all these terrorists actions come. It's *inherent* in the religion, which acts like a state and does not distinguish between the two.
Part of what Islam does with those whom it seeks to conquer to to *lull them to sleep* -- by whatever means. One of those means is to lie and say that they are really a "peaceful religion". Another way is to attack anyone who tries to expose Islam for what it is (think of Steven Emerson and "Jihad in America"). Another way would be to *minimize* the whole thing and say that there is no problem and we can really handle it (which sounds a lot like you, actually...).
According to one of those speakers at the symposium -- we've got thousands upon thousands of Islamic terrorists already inside this country "setting up shop" at various mosques around the country where they can hide their necessary materials for waging war and terror inside this country -- when the time comes for them to act all at once.
Others are already telling us that they are planning for a "massive attack" -- different than the 9/11 terrorist attack -- and will have WMD and many scattered attacks around the country. This is a planned operation that they are working on and are setting up right now. There have been many reports of this and their "surveillance" of different places around our country for purposes of planning this massive attack.
[By the way -- if anyone is interested in that syposium, follow the link at the beginning of this thread. If anyone is interested in CD of the sessions, let me know, as I'll try to get some. I was told that something would be available.]
So, with you trying to divert attention away from Islam and the present danger it is in this country -- by mentioning North Korea -- only serves to point out even more clearly that you are trying your best to get attention away from this subject. I keep wondering what your motivation is to keep people away from paying attention to Islam and the evil that it represents and that they are intent on placing nuclear bombs in this country and blowing them up in a massive attack on the U.S.
You surely must have some sinister motives for trying to divert people's attention away from this. You sound a lot like CAIR in what they do. You sound like you're practicing "Takiyya" -- which is to lie to the "infidel" and mislead them until Islam can gain the upper hand and kill them. You are obviously working on behalf of Islam and definitely against Americans being information of what Islam (and al-Qaida) want to do and can do in the United States.
As far as what capacity I serve, you wouldn't know -- just like people wouldn't know if you're supporting Islam in a lying capacity. However, your words do tend to give away your support for Islam and its attack on the U.S. You're doing everything you can to divert attention away from any attack here in the U.S. and put people to sleep on the issue.
As to any logical sense that I make -- well..., I guess people can read, can listen to the others who are speaking out on al-Qaida bring nukes into this country and see whether they want to go to sleep like you are advocating....
Regards,
Star Traveler
We're also not going to nuke a bunch of civilians.
I think you're wrong. Any Western leader who FAILS to retaliate is doomed politically.
How many times is somebody going to have a book to sell or a website that needs more hits?
Roger that. Note that the thread, which promotes RIGHTALK.com, was started by BobJ whose profile reads, in part:
"Created Radio FreeRepublic, now morphing into the national conservative talk web-radio sensation RIGHTALK.com."
Prove me wrong, BobJ.
Having said that, nuking muzzies is still an attractive topic. Carry on.
If Iran is attacked, then the area of Pakistan and Afghanistan that Bin Laden is reported to be should be carpet bombed at the same time. Napalm sounds like a good idea. I hope our leaders aren't stupid enough to make the mistake of thinking that won't be something. The only way to properly neuter Al-Quokos is to take them out, no matter where they are (and I'm sure our military leaders know) when Iran is bombed.
Without Mecca, Islam is over... no more black rock idol to pray to every day... proving to them and the whole world that their false pagan god is not omnipotent...
and if they nuke us, we will kill every single one of them and flood their streets with blood.
how do you like your jihad now?
You said -- "Do we have any public information to confirm that DHS has systematically changed its focus to "disaster aftermath". Could this tie in somehow to the FEMA disolution?"
I was wondering about that, too. I would like to see something on that. Anyone?
Regards,
Star Traveler
They strap explosives around their waists, not toss them. Trust me, they are stupid.
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