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Juror tells of pressure to convict terrorism suspect [Lodi]
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 4/28/6 | Demian Bulwa

Posted on 04/28/2006 6:05:04 AM PDT by SmithL

She tells judge in Lodi case she regrets her guilty vote and accuses jury foreman of misconduct -- other panelists deny it.

Sacramento -- One of 12 jurors who convicted a 23-year-old Lodi man Tuesday on charges that he trained for holy war disavowed the verdict late Thursday, alleging that she was bullied into a guilty finding amid a pattern of misconduct by fellow panelists.

"I never once throughout the deliberation process and the reading of the verdict believed Hamid Hayat to be guilty," Arcelia Lopez, a 44-year-old school nurse from Sacramento, said in a 2,000-word affidavit filed to the U.S. District Court in Sacramento by the defense just after 9 p.m.

Among other accusations, Lopez said the jury's foreman, near the start of the two-month trial, "gestured as if he was tying a rope around his neck" and said, "Hang him." Lopez said that the gesture was repeated throughout the trial and that she believed it was a reference to Hayat.

Hayat's attorney, Wazhma Mojaddidi, said Lopez's allegations should prompt U.S. District Judge Garland Burrell Jr. to grant the 23-year-old man a new trial. Hayat faces 30 to 39 years in prison at a July 14 sentencing.

Prosecutors could not be reached for comment at the late hour.

But one juror, speaking on condition of anonymity, called the accusations "a complete outrage" borne of "juror regret." The juror said Lopez changed her vote to guilty Monday, which at first made the juror uncomfortable.

"When she decided to change her vote, which was completely under her own will, I asked her flat-out to her face, in front of everybody, if she was changing her mind based on her own free will and the evidence presented (to) the jury," ... "She said yes."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conviction; ohlord; stuckinlodiagain; terrorist
Well alrighty, then. The clock on her 15 minutes is now running.
1 posted on 04/28/2006 6:05:07 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Soooo...you are saying your are a gutless wimp and not responsible for your own actions?


2 posted on 04/28/2006 6:09:34 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus
you are saying your are a gutless wimp

You're calling SmithL a gutless wimp, or are you addressing the woman that is the subject of this article?

3 posted on 04/28/2006 6:15:20 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: SmithL

Do I smell a bribe? Or is it merely an attempt for to media attention?


4 posted on 04/28/2006 6:16:24 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: rhombus

I don't wanna be defending this woman - but I have served on a jury.

The case I was on was nowhere as big as the Hayat case. But the trial took about a week and then we deliberated for two and a half days.

In our jury were several loud and forceful individuals and they made it clear that they wanted to find the defendant guilty and get back to their jobs and personal lives. Maybe they were that confident in their beliefs - but I think the opposite. I think they wanted the trial to end ASAP!

There was a great deal of bickering in the jury room. Several jurors who voted Not Guilty folded really easily - but me and two other jurors held out until we were sure our reservations were answered.

The bottom line? I don't like it but in a jury room, I can easily see juror intimidation or pressure on those who aren't agreeing with the majority. I know for a fact that I told one of my fellow jurors to shut up and stop interrupting other jurors. I also told him to F*** off one day.


5 posted on 04/28/2006 6:19:13 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

I have been on juries too. There always seems to be one person there who is in outer space. Instead of judging on the facts they rely on "Feelings".


6 posted on 04/28/2006 6:38:33 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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"Several jurors who voted Not Guilty folded really easily - but me and two other jurors held out until we were sure our reservations were answered."

Explain how your reservations could have been answered. Either there's reasonable doubt or not. Talking about it doesn't make the doubt go away.

People on a jury need to be responsible for their oaths. Of course there are strong personalities on a jury. Just as in a corporate board room, they will generally prevail. That's the way the system works and that's how it has worked from it's inception.

Any misconduct involves the person who was bullied into changing their vote, not the pernon doing the bullying.
7 posted on 04/28/2006 6:44:35 AM PDT by babygene
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To: MplsSteve

I also have been on a jury and yes I acknowledge that some people were forcefull in making their arguments. Isn't this like any aspect of life? Except of course a jury must come to agreement so the arguments tend to be even more forceful. We did have one "hold out" who had a hard time keeping all the facts straight. Yeah, for those who had the facts clear in their mind I'm sure they wanted to get on with their lives and return to their jobs but no so much that they'd let someone they believed to be guilty walk. Therefore they had no alternative but to repeat the facts of the case over and over until the holdout either "went along" or was convinced. Was she "browbeat"? How can anyone make that judgement? If you are on a jury I do believe that you have to take some personal responsibility to not let yourself be browbeat into gowing along with something you don't believe. This juror could have continued to hold out if she honestly felt she was being "browbeat" and could even have complained to the judge - there are options to just "going along". When this doesn't happen, I would think someone would be embarassed to come forward and say that she let herself be used in such a manner.


8 posted on 04/28/2006 6:48:47 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: SmithL
A perfect example of the nitwits class of citizen that gets selected to serve on juries.

I was recently excused from jury duty because I had expressed a reasonable opinion to the defense counsel that not all the police in the case were liars before the fact of their testimony.

The asylum that is the criminal justice system is best left to the lunatics and criminals in the black robes.

The rest of us simply carry.

9 posted on 04/28/2006 6:57:40 AM PDT by mmercier (same as it ever was)
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To: babygene

The case is a bit too complex to explain here.

But needless to say, the debate cleared up some misconceptions that several of us had.

I was never brow-beaten into agreeing with the majority. The extended debate we had changed my mind.


10 posted on 04/28/2006 6:59:35 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: sgtbono2002

I have been on juries too. There always seems to be one person there who is in outer space. Instead of judging on the facts they rely on "Feelings".

Trial by (those who select the) jury.


11 posted on 04/28/2006 7:27:56 AM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: VOATNOW1

That certainly happens.


12 posted on 04/28/2006 10:47:00 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: babygene
Any misconduct involves the person who was bullied into changing their vote, not the pernon doing the bullying.

Exactly! I have sat on three juries. Part of the deliberation process is to reach a unanimous descision. How would you do that without using persuavive arguments? If this verdict gets overthrown because of this, then the jury system is no more.

13 posted on 04/28/2006 1:44:09 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Dante3

Book or magazine deal?


14 posted on 04/28/2006 10:34:39 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee
Book or magazine deal?

Top seed in the American Idol competition...

...on al-Jazeera.

15 posted on 04/28/2006 10:47:33 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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