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To: Romanov

In case there is any confusion, the following is a direct quote by Patton when asked what he thought of the Russians.



RUSSIA AND RUSSIANS

We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it? They have no Air Force anymore, their gasoline and ammunition supplies are low. I've seen their miserable supply trains; mostly wagons draw by beaten up old horses or oxen. I'll say this; the Third Army alone with very little help and with damned few casualties, could lick what is left of the Russians in six weeks. You mark my words. Don't ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives.

One form of securing testimony used by the Russians is to hang a man by his wrists with bandages so that they will not cut or marks will be left. Then, two small incisions are made into the lower abdomen to allow a portion of the intestines to hang out. After the man has taken all that he can stand without dying, he is cut down, the incisions are sewn up, and he is restored to health with the promise that the operation will not be repeated IF he does as he is told.

I believe that by taking a strong attitude with the Russians, they will back down. We have already yielded too much to their mongolian nature.

There are all kinds of low class slime who are trying and will continue to try to wreck this country from the inside. Most of them don't know it, but they are actually working for the Russians. Some of them do know it, though. It doesn't matter whether they call themselves communists, socialists, or just plain liberals. That is what they are doing.

The Russians are mongols. They are Slavs and a lot of them used to be ruled by ancient Byzantium. From Genghis Kahn to Stalin, they have not changed. They never will and we will never learn, at least, not until it is too late.

Poland is under Russian domination, so is Hungary, so is Czechoslovakia, and so is Yugoslavia; and we sit happily by and think that everybody loves us.

We have destroyed what could have been a good race of people and we are about to replace them with mongolian savages and all of Europe with communism.

General Anders of the Polish II Corps told me that if his Corps got between a German Army and a Russian Army he would have trouble deciding which direction to fight.

The one thing which I could not say then, and cannot yet say, is that my chief interest in establishing order in Germany was to prevent Germany from going communist. I am afraid that our foolish and utterly stupid policy in regard to Germany will certainly cause them to join the Russians and thereby insure a communistic state throughout western Europe.

If it should be necessary for us to fight the Russians, the sooner we do it, the better.

We could have arrived sooner but for the fact that if one flies over Russian occupied territory they shoot at you. Nice friends.

If we have to fight them, now is the time. From now on, we will get weaker and they will get stronger.

The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinese or a Japanese. From what I have seen of them I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russians have no regard for human life and they are all out sons of bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks.

It is said that for the first week after the Russians took Berlin, all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped. I could have taken Berlin if I had been allowed.

The Russians have a lot of new heavy tanks of which they are very proud. The Marshall asked me how I liked them. I said that I did not and we had quite an argument. Apparently I am the first person ever to disagree with him.

At the dinner I stated that in my opinion Germany was so completely blacked out that so far as military resistance was concerned, they were not a menace and that what we had to look out for was Russia. This caused a considerable furor.

I believe that Germany should not be destroyed, but rather should be rebuilt as a buffer against the real danger, which is Russia and it's Bolshevism.

Russia knows what it wants. World domination. And she is laying her plans accordingly. We, on the other hand, and England, and France to a lesser extent, don't know what we want and get less than nothing as the result.

Let's keep our boots polished, bayonets sharpened, and present a picture of force and strength to the Russians. This is the only language that they understand and respect. If you fail to do this, then I would like to say that we have had a victory over the Germans, and have disarmed them, but we have lost the war.

I have never seen in any army at any time, including the German Imperial Army of 1912, as severe discipline as exists in the Russian Army. The officers, with few exceptions, give the appearance of recently civilized mongolian bandits. The men passed in review with a very good imitation of the goose step. They give me the impression of something that is to be feared in future world political reorganization.


285 posted on 05/08/2006 7:55:54 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

"Poland is under Russian domination, so is Hungary, so is Czechoslovakia, and so is Yugoslavia; and we sit happily by and think that everybody loves us."

Correct, and you'll note that UKRAINE is not on this list. Which means Gen. Patton had the Soviet Union in mind when he wrote this. OR, perhaps he knew that the Ukrainians were co-partners in the Soviet crimes being foisted upon the free world.


288 posted on 05/08/2006 7:58:49 AM PDT by Romanov
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To: GarySpFc; x5452

Some of these subversive groups are still active on US soil.

"Though the German Nazis and Italian Fascists were the best-publicized among the various rightist movements, other ethnically-based organizations were available to enemy intelligence services. Between 1940 and 1942, a number of eastern European groups attracted intense concern, American representatives of minority nationalities like the Lithuanians and Croats, who had allied with the Axis powers to secure their national aspirations (127). Pittsburgh had a Croat nationalist community that welcomed the German overthrow of the Yugoslav state in 1941, and a leading activist here was Ante Doshen, publisher of the ultra-Rightist journal journal American Slav (128). White Russian emigrés were mobilized by the pro-Nazi Prince Anastase Vonsiatsky (129).

Much the most important group was the Ukrainians, who were well represented in Pennsylvania (130). In 1930, some six thousand foreign-born Pennsylvanians claimed Ukrainian as their mother tongue, with the largest communities in Philadelphia (two thousand), Pittsburgh (one thousand) and Scranton (seven hundred). There was also a thriving cultural network, with several newspapers and magazines. Philadelphia was the center of the Ukrainian Catholic church in North America, and there were some 24 Ukrainian parishes in and around Pittsburgh, both Catholic and Orthodox (131).

Most Ukrainian expatriates were militantly anti-Communist. During the 1930s, rightist sentiment had been exploited by new groups closely affiliated with German Abwehr intelligence, for whom they undertook terrorist attacks against Polish and Soviet targets. These movements included the OUN, Organizace Ukrajinska Nacionalistov, headquartered in Rome, and the pro-Nazi ODWU, the Organization for the Rebirth of the Ukraine (132). All were active in the United States in the 1930s, where ODWU militants were involved in kidnappings in New York city. Pennsylvania provided a critical power base, and until 1938, the president of ODWU in the United States was Gregory Herman, of Wilkes-Barre, an officer in the US Army Reserve (133). As with the Germans and Italians, fascist groups infiltrated and sought to annex older-established nationalist and cultural groups, especially the Ukrainian Nationalist Association. Another target was the Ukrainian Catholic church, which was influenced by a pro-ODWU priest named Monsignor Ivan Buchko, who declared that the organization represented “the flower of the Ukrainian nation”. By 1940, some publications of the Ukrainian diocese of Philadelphia were expressing support for ODWU positions. After the German attack on the Soviet Union in 1941, the Philadelphia Ukrainian paper America called for the establishment of a pro-Nazi Ukrainian regime headed by one of the exile organizations (134) .

Ukrainians participated in the emerging Brown Front. In Chicago in 1938, “Ukrainians in greenish-brown shirts marched with white- and silver-shirted American Nazis at the Bund’s German Day celebration” (135). A critical go-between was the White Russian leader Vonsiatsky, who was close to native American fascist leaders like Pelley, Edmondson, and Henry Allen, and was also linked to Wilhelm Kunze (136). Vonsiatsky’s contact to the Ukrainian fascists was Alexei Pelypenko, the covert FBI informant (137). Also linking German and Ukrainian interests was Captain Leonid Klimenko, “a fascist Ukrainian emissary from the German war office” with extensive contacts in and around Pittsburgh (138).

At least from 1934, the Ukrainian fascists actively organized for violent confrontation and sabotage in the United States. Initially, this was undertaken under the guise of an “Ukrainian Aviation School” in New York state. Pittsburgh was the movement’s center of weapons training, and also for espionage activity that included photographing industrial facilities throughout Pennsylvania. In early 1941, a US army captain of Pennsylvania Ukrainian origins was court-martialled for betraying information to a foreign agent (139). The Hour warned that Ukrainian fifth columnists were spreading across the country, targeting centers like “virtually the whole of Pittsburgh, with its mills, railroad yards and river barges” (140). In March 1941, Ukrainians were suspected of having sabotaged the Pennsylvania Railroad’s Cleveland to Pittsburgh express train, which crashed near Ambridge in Beaver County, killing five (141). Railroad authorities were certain that tampering had been involved, but the political motive was less apparent. The Hour reported that the real target had been another train which had passed the same spot some minutes earlier, carrying over forty members of a Soviet delegation (142).

The Ukrainian networks offered a potential subversive threat quite comparable that of any of the more conspicuous groups, though here too fascist influence was waning before the outbreak of war. Within the Ukrainian Catholic church, pro-fascist activities were prohibited by Philadelphia’s Bishop Constantine Bohachewsky, who reprimanded the pro-ODWU Buchko (143). Buchko left the US in late 1941 (144). In the Fall of 1940, ODWU was condemned by the mass membership Ukrainian fraternal associations like the Workingman’s Association of Scranton (145), the National Mutual Aid Society of Pittsburgh, and Philadelphia’s Provident Association, as well as the influential Scranton paper Narodna Volya (146). By the end of the year, the Scranton and Philadelphia fraternal groups were demanding the exclusion of fascist sympathizers from future Ukrainian-American gatherings (147). In 1941, the fascist Hetman organization abandoned its US operations, and ODWU dissolved into several factions (148)."


290 posted on 05/08/2006 8:16:43 AM PDT by Romanov
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To: spanalot

Patton appears to be clueless as to the state of Soviet forces not that he should know that much about it in any case after all he was occupied with other issues.

Soviet air forces had driven the Nazis from the skies and had COMPLETE air superiority over Eastern Europe. From 1940 to 1945 the USSR had built almost 160,000 aircraft, it had built equally impressive numbers of tanks which were superior to the US tanks.

Only a fool would believe that the US army could do what the Nazis couldn't even with more troops. There were 3.9 million Nazi troops against against 5.5 million Soviets and that was not enough to hold back the tide. The US had far less troops in Europe than even the Nazis.


293 posted on 05/08/2006 8:41:02 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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