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Privately, Bush Says He Favors Citizenship (for Illegals)
AP ^ | April 26, 2006 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/26/2006 5:20:12 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

President Bush generally favors plans to give millions of illegal immigrants a chance at U.S. citizenship without leaving the country, but does not want to be more publicly supportive because of opposition among conservative House Republicans, according to senators who attended a recent White House meeting.

Several officials familiar with the meeting also said Democrats protested radio commercials that blamed them for Republican-written legislation that passed the House and would make illegal immigrants vulnerable to felony charges.

Bush said he was unfamiliar with the ads, which were financed by the Republican National Committee, according to officials familiar with the discussions.

At another point, Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada and other members of his party pressed the president about their concern that any Senate-passed bill would be made unpalatable in final talks with the House.

Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the second-ranking Democrat, said the lawmaker who would lead House negotiators, House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, had been "intractable" in negotiations on other high-profile bills in the past. Bush did not directly respond to the remark, officials said.

The Republican and Democratic officials who described the conversation did so Wednesday on condition of anonymity, saying they had not been authorized to disclose details.

Bush convened the session to give momentum to the drive for election-year immigration legislation, a contentious issue that has triggered large street demonstrations and produced divisions in both political parties. Senators of both parties emerged from the session praising the president's involvement and said the timetable was achievable.

"Yes, he thinks people should be given a path to citizenship," said Sen. Mel Martinez., R-Fla., a leading supporter of immigration legislation in the Senate.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; bushhaters; citzenship; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; openborders; sellout
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To: Sam the Sham
They want an open borders world in which much of America looks like Oaxaca and America becomes like any Latin American dump ....

And, I'll add that this third world invasion is not limited to just the "Border States". I see it here in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and New York.

I can safely say that if it hasn't come to your state yet, it soon will. And, I'm waiting for my President to stop it but I'm running out of breath.

141 posted on 04/26/2006 6:30:12 PM PDT by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Conservative Actuary

" Bush IS A MODERATE"

He's a one world socialist and with campaign finance, spending, no child left behind, medicare drugs, CAFTA,and wanting to legalize illegal aliens for starters all with the help of a left wing Republican Congress he has done more damage to this nation than any President since Roosevelt.


142 posted on 04/26/2006 6:30:13 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: nopardons

You don't think it's plausible that Bush wants the illegals to become citizens?

What has he said or done that would indicate his true belief is anything other than that?


143 posted on 04/26/2006 6:31:09 PM PDT by Sometimes A River (Bush stifles speech to appease Chinese butchers)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bush, senators agree on alien citizenship, shut out critics
By Stephen Dinan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
April 26, 2006


President Bush and a group of senators yesterday reached general agreement on an immigration bill that includes a pathway to citizenship for many illegal aliens.
But left out of the closed-door White House meeting were senators who oppose a path to citizenship. The meeting even snubbed two men who had been considered allies of Mr. Bush on immigration -- Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican and chairman of the immigration subcommittee, and Sen. Jon Kyl, Arizona Republican.
Mr. Bush in brief remarks to the press said there was agreement to get "a bill that does not grant automatic amnesty to people, but a bill that says, somebody who is working here on a legal basis has the right to get in line to become a citizen." But senators, speaking afterward, said Mr. Bush was far more specific in the meeting.
"There was a pretty good consensus that what we have put into the Hagel-Martinez proposal here is the right way to go," said Sen. Mel Martinez, Florida Republican. "I think he was very clear [on] pathway to citizenship, so long as it goes to the back of the line, and he even opened the door here for something we've haggled back and forth on, that you can shrink the time for people to become citizens by simply enlarging the number of green cards."
And Sen. Sam Brownback, Kansas Republican, said Mr. Bush "endorsed the concept of an earned citizenship."
That would represent a substantial change on the part of the Bush administration, which just last year said it opposed a path to citizenship for those currently here illegally.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told the Senate Judiciary Committee in October the administration didn't support "a path through which they can get their permanent residence or citizenship," and Labor Secretary Elaine L. Chao echoed that: "We feel that a pathway to citizenship would reward those who have violated our laws."
The Hagel-Martinez bill would divide illegal aliens into three groups. Most of those who have been in the country for more than five years would be granted access to citizenship, those here more than two years but less than five years would have to go home first but would also be eligible for citizenship, while those here two years or less would not have a path.
Even as Mr. Bush is moving in that direction, the House majority leader yesterday rejected it.
"This idea that was being kicked around the Senate about providing some sort of amnesty for those who have been here five years or more, I just think it was a very big mistake," House Majority Leader John A. Boehner, Ohio Republican, said yesterday. "You are just inviting more people to come."
Still, the senators in yesterday's meeting were thrilled with where the debate is, and the direction Mr. Bush is headed.
"He hasn't endorsed the Senate bill, but I think it's a big step forward in that direction and gives assurances that if we pass legislation of that sort, that we'll have support from the president when we get into conference," said Sen. Arlen Specter, chairman of the Judiciary Committee.


144 posted on 04/26/2006 6:31:39 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: Cacique
For Bush it happens top be his in-laws and nephew.

Who happen to be americans

Your posts are just dripping

145 posted on 04/26/2006 6:31:46 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: FastCoyote

We have "gates"? Where are they? How many "gates" are there? Who "shut" them and who opened them? How many keys are there, and who holds them?


146 posted on 04/26/2006 6:32:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: FastCoyote

Blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Broken record.


147 posted on 04/26/2006 6:32:29 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: mo
"It's called the legal immigration pathway and so says the law of our land"... the problem we seem to have here is that our elected ones truly beleive they have the right to selectively decide to whom the law shall apply. It would seem somehow an excellent question for the Supreme Court. For if it is ruled so, by the Court, then all men equal under law is dead, and we return to aristocracy, where favorable treatment is metered out to politically correct members of the King's Court.

Excellent post.

148 posted on 04/26/2006 6:32:42 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Jim_Curtis

Oh please


149 posted on 04/26/2006 6:33:18 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: West Coast Conservative

How GULLIBLE can people be?

You actually believe that the President met with Republican and Democrat senators, and during the meeting said he really secretly supported amnesty, but couldn't say it publicly because he'd upset the conservatives?

You must really think the President is stupid. Well, he isn't.

I bet some of those "conservative" senators were in that meeting, and came away with a different impression.

I've been called a Bush-bot simply for supporting, on the basis of my own interpretation of facts, things the president supports.

What name should we give to people who blindly believe that the president would tell Harry Reid something that he wanted to keep "private".


150 posted on 04/26/2006 6:33:41 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Cagey
I see it here in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and New York.

In the tri-state area of NY, NJ and Connecticut they estimate 2 million illegals but it's probably a lot more than that. And the bad news is it's just getting started.

151 posted on 04/26/2006 6:33:43 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: CWOJackson

Not really.


152 posted on 04/26/2006 6:33:46 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Yes, he thinks people should be given a path to citizenship,"

So, mr. bush, if I break into your ranch house in crawford, are you going to give me a path to ownership of it too?

Time to get SAVAGE on the bushBots. They are the enemy within.
153 posted on 04/26/2006 6:33:52 PM PDT by Zrob (Amnesty in any form = dead GOP)
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To: West Coast Conservative

FEATHERING THEIR NESTS
Mexican Officials Line Their Pockets While Demanding U.S. Help

Contact: Prof. George Grayson, gwgray@wm.edu or (757) 221-3031.

WASHINGTON (April 2006) -- Mexican politicians continuously demand increased immigrant visas for their citizens, an expanded guest-worker program, and amnesty for their illegal aliens living north of the Rio Grande. But while Mexico expects the United States to solve its social problems by allowing the border to serve as a safety-valve for job seekers, its government officials enjoy princely lifestyles and spend little of the nation's wealth on education and health care, which are crucial elements in promoting social mobility.

In a new report from the Center for Immigration Studies, ''Mexican Officials Feather Their Nests While Decrying U.S. Immigration Policy,'' William and Mary government professor George W. Grayson outlines the lavish salaries and benefits that Mexico's governing elite pays itself, as well as the minimal investments it makes in the country's social development.

The report, on line at http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back306.html , includes the following findings:

* President Vicente Fox ($236,693) makes more than the leaders of France ($95,658), the U.K. ($211,434), or Canada ($75,582).

* Although they are in session only a few months a year, members of Mexico's Chamber of Deputies make $148,000 -- substantially more than their counterparts in France ($78,000), Germany ($105,000), and congressmen throughout Latin America. At the end of the last three-year term, Mexican deputies voted themselves a $28,000 ''leaving-office bonus.''

* Members of the 32 state legislatures earn on average twice the amount earned by U.S. state legislators ($60,632 vs. $28,261). The salaries and bonuses of the lawmakers in Baja California ($158,149), Guerrero ($129,630), and Guanajuato ($111,358) exceed the salaries of legislators in California ($110,880), the District of Columbia ($92,500), Michigan ($79,650), and New York ($79,500).

* Average salaries (plus Christmas stipends known as aguinaldos) place the average compensation of Mexican governors at $125,759, which exceeds by almost $10,000 the mean earnings of their U.S. counterparts ($115,778). On average, governors received aguinaldos of $14,346 in 2005 -- a year when 60 percent of Mexicans received no year-end bonuses.

* In 2002 Mexico earmarked only 6.1 percent of its GDP for health care. Mexico trailed Argentina (8.9%), Barbados (6.9%), Brazil (7.9%), Colombia (8.1%), Costa Rica (9.3%), Cuba (7.50 %), El Salvador (8.0%), Haiti (7.6%), and Nicaragua (7.9%).

* Mexico devoted just 5.3 percent of GDP to education in 2002, behind Barbados (7.6%), Cuba (9%), Honduras (7.2%), and Uruguay (8.5%).

George W. Grayson is the Class of 1938 Professor of Government at the College of William & Mary. Random House-Mondadori has just published Mesias Mexicano, his book on Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, the front-runner in the July 2 Mexican presidential election.


154 posted on 04/26/2006 6:34:38 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: dalereed
He's a one world socialist and with campaign finance, spending, no child left behind, medicare drugs, CAFTA,and wanting to legalize illegal aliens for starters all with the help of a left wing Republican Congress he has done more damage to this nation than any President since Roosevelt.

The judges wanted to let you know that this post has won the honors of "The Dumbest Post of the Day."

You win a seven-day, all expenses paid trip to Cancun, where Mexicans will cater to your every whim.

155 posted on 04/26/2006 6:35:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Kind of like the word conservative isn't it. You have your everyday run of the mill conservatives, the "true conservatives" and the "real conservsatives".


156 posted on 04/26/2006 6:36:03 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: underwiredsupport
"These folks are doing the jobs Americans refuse to do."

Therefore, I nominate this guy for U.S. President--- because he's willing to do the job an American refuses to do.

157 posted on 04/26/2006 6:36:33 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Acts 2:38
I think that all of you rabid, foaming at the mouthers are doing the DNC's work; that's what I think.

During a break, someone on FNC read off the numbers of all of the illegals prevented from crossing our borders, caught other illegals and sent them home ( something never seen here, nor in the MSM ) during the past 6 years ( and they are far higher than under Clinton ), which were in the many tens of millions.

Obviously, you'd much prefer to talk about what you imagine, rather than to deal in hard, cold, facts.

158 posted on 04/26/2006 6:36:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: dalereed

Well I can't tell you haven't been paying attention for the last 60 years


159 posted on 04/26/2006 6:37:06 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: ARCADIA
Murder is out of control, every 2 seconds a driver run red lights, speeding is incalculable, every 18 minutes there is a child missing, a rape occurs every 36 minutes and every 4 minutes a new illegal alien is in this country. If Bush is for open borders then why has he not disbanded the Border and Customs Officers down there? You may have a valid point if you were to say that President Bush needs to do more but to claim treason because in your opinion he hasn't done what YOU feel he should is BS.
160 posted on 04/26/2006 6:37:58 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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