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Bush has increased government faster than Clinton thus it is likely that Gore and Kerry wouldn't been any worse, at least if history is any guide. Was Kerry, for example, more pro-big govenrment than Clinton? I see little reason to believe he was.

If you were to give Kerry or Gore emperor for life status they'd spend til they were using 100% of our GDP but a liberal with a republican congress wouldn't be able to pass a bill. Bush passed threw a Medicare bill bigger than Gores and the republicans vote for it because they were being loyal. If Gore was elected and he tried to push threw a smaller version of Bushs bill, the entire republican party would scream about a welfare state.

The welfare state will be the end of American democracy, mark my words. Once the majority of people get more money from the the government than the government takes from them we will never be able to vote out the welfare state. Guess what happens then, revolution, a revolution that would either limit the voting franchise or abandon democracy all together. Don't think for one minute the rich and powerful in America will sit idle by when socialists steal their money.

Was Kerry, for example, more pro-big govenrment than Clinton? I see little reason to believe he was.

It would be hard to believe that he wasn't. He was ranked most liberal Senator in Congress for a few years if you recall.