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To: Thebaddog

Yes there have been attempts, but the success or failure of them has nothing to do with what's going on in Iraq. That has to do with heightened awareness and vigilance of our domestic law enforcement agencies (insert tip of the hat to them here). Also the fact that there have been attempts IN SPITE OF our invasion of Iraq, actually can be seen as evidence that invading Iraq didn't do much good. Another way to look at this is that A) there are no WMDs because the sanctions were actually working and the "missing" weapons that the accountants are wondering about got too old to be useful or were destroyed because Saddam didn't want to get caught with the goods. B) If he had them in useable condition at the time of the invasion, why ship them to Syria? Wouldn't using them against American troops make more sense from Saddam's point of view (i.e. use them or lose them)Hey if he did ship them to Syria then they sure didn't do him any good, did they? The fact that they weren't used on our troops during Operation Shock and Awe is an indicator that he probably didn't have them to use. C) Some of Osama Bin Laden's statements in the past suggest that maybe one of the purposes of 911 was to draw America into a war in the middle east, bog us down in a protracted and expensive guerilla war, draining our resources and willpower over a period of years (i.e. Vietnam). If this is true then obviously that didn't pan out too well for Bin Laden because the Afghan warlords didn't play along. They didn't really like him and the Taliban too much. D) Then the Bush Admin. turns around and (maybe) snatches defeat from the jaws of victory by invading Iraq. (granted, if Saddam was running a good bluff, then this wasn't intentional on the part of the Pres., still, it might prove to be a costly mistake because it might just have given Osama exactly the kind of war that he was looking for). E)The new govt. of Iraq STILL hasn't got it together and the country is on the brink of civil war. The insurgency shows signs of growing, not diminishing. If everything falls apart we'll be left holding the bag. We can't just cut and run, right? Eventually the drain on our taxes and resources is going to have a negative affect on our economy. Not to mention the human costs of all those young men and women coming home in boxes and the rising animosity in the Arab world toward us.

So, once again, is it worth all this? Oh and Osama is still at large. Al Queda has been hurt but is definitely still operating. I hope my concerns turn out to be unfounded. I really do. Because if they are not then we're in for a long and bloody war that could to to us what Afghanistan did to the Soviet Union. Don't forget, Osama cut his terrorist teeth on Soviet tanks and choppers.


85 posted on 04/29/2006 5:24:50 PM PDT by modusoperendi (Democracy starts with reason and intelligence, not the gun barrel.)
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To: modusoperendi
invading Iraq didn't do much good

Had we not invaded, how many al Qaeda members would we have captured or killed? Prior to 9/11 we had to rely on foreign countries to arrest and extradict who we wanted and this was not effective, to put it mildly. When we have to ask other countries for help we get a lot better cooperation also.
86 posted on 04/29/2006 7:43:03 PM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: modusoperendi

Thew better question is who you will be voting for in 08. Forget about Iraq. Assume that the Republicans can't field a credible candidate, who would you vote for among the democratic field?


88 posted on 04/30/2006 5:55:49 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Kill terrorists)
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