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1 posted on 04/24/2006 11:00:03 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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You're as bad as Bush and the RINOS in the Senate.


55 posted on 04/29/2006 12:21:20 AM PDT by dalereed
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My thoughts...

This has been going on so long, and is so entrenched, that we are all going to have to give up something to really clean it up. There's just no way out around it, there's been a blind eye to the problem for far too long.

1. End anchor babies, period. End chaining immigration status to those here already. Immigration should be a one to one proposition, just because Carlos gets in, does not mean his aunts and uncles do. Citizenship should be treasured and worked for, not just given away.

2. Fine companies that hire illegals, and if they get caught a second time, revoke business licenses, and jail owners.

3. Tax and monitor funds going over the border, and correlate that data with W2's, lack of tax accounts for anything over $5,000 in a year's time is subject to investigation. Banking laws must be looked at and modified to help track illegals, without intruding on citizens privacy. (That's a tough one)

4. Home/apartment rental/ownership must require valid, verified citizenship somewhere, and foreigners must provide visas and green cards and proof of employment.

5. Driver's licenses WILL be in English, and English ONLY.

6. Voter materials and ballots will be in ENGLISH and ENGLISH ONLY. You must have a working knowledge of spoken and written English to become a citizen, anyway, so this is NOT a hardship. (Kills any "illegal voter block", which means politicians have no reason to fight to protect illegals)

7. The Border Patrol MUST be given the right to defend themselves, and use force if necessary. The Army/State Militia should and could be used to patrol. Any attack on border agents/military/police while crossing the border WILL be met with deadly force.

8. Hospitals must be allowed to triage patients and refuse treatement to minor cases like colds and flu, services should be cash first if you cannot prove citizenship that can be verified (tourists will have their passports), and they are allowed to ask for proof of citizenship, and to call the authorities for illegals.

9. Local municipalities must be allowed to arrest, hold, and arrange for departation of illegals.

10. Any arrest, regardless of conviction, will start the deportation process if proof of citizenship cannot be proven. Conviction will result in that person being banned permamently for citizenship. Misdemeanors by illegals get deported, felonies get incarcerated, and deported upon release, home country is billed for the keep of the prisoner.

11. Schools should end English As A Second language programs, and teach in English. A working knowledge of English will be required to attend. If a LEGAL immigrant child cannot read or speak, they can be tutored or taught in private schools until they can keep up. Legal adults will be required to learn as part of becoming a citizen, the schools are already available.

12. Colleges will no longer give illegals cheaper tution, grants, aid, or allow them to attend. Citizenship, verifiable, must be given to attend, and visas MUST be in order and followed up on if they expire, or the student is deported. Classes will be taught in English.

13. Money earmarked by the Federal Governement for this issue must be spent to swell the ranks of the Border Patrol and the immigration officals to monitor,investigate, and deport illegals. The military can be hired to transport them, and the Feds can match dollars to states to fund programs to enforce immigration law. Every effort must be made to strengthen and streamline the whole process, from investigation, to processing, to actual transport of the deported. Those deported need to be recorded, and fingerprints and mug shots need to be available in a nation-wide database available to ALL law enforcement, from the beat cop pulling over a speeding illegal, to customs officers in airports, ports, and rail stations.

Clearly, life here must be impossible if not highly uncomfortable and costly, our borders must be closed and defended, and deportation must happen on a large scale. Yes, it will be ugly, expensive, and we'll be attacked by the world for being mean. So what. It needs to be done, and we'll all have to make changes and sacrifice, and harden our hearts to the guilt-trips. We have to do these things to survive. We can also use the efforts and changes to help find terror suspects, criminals, and provide employment across the country for a wide variety of positions.

How can we deport 11 million illegals? Start with the first one, and keep going.


56 posted on 04/29/2006 1:17:57 AM PDT by ByDesign
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We must continue to advocate for strong border security and do what JimRob says and keep the heat on Republicans



And WHEN that doesn't work? 'Cause it won't.


57 posted on 04/29/2006 6:03:35 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (It wasn't the spikes that kept Him on the cross.)
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Few of your proposed provisions will be strictly enforced. People who are "too poor" to pay fines or to pay for immunizations will not be deported. Also, some will always use the argument that these poor people did not comply with the laws because they do not understand English and they were too frightened of government officials, blah blah blah. You get the picture. These stipulations for becoming citizens will be ignored just like the present laws. What will happen is that most will not become citizens (who really didn't want it any way) but they will still be here. Everything will stay the same.


59 posted on 04/29/2006 6:13:12 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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