[Ben Ficklin]

Anybody want to badmouth Phyllis?

I'll take a shot at it.

In the first line of the second paragraph she uses the Pew Hispanic number. In the second line of the second paragraph she uses the number 20 million that Pew doesn't use.

She is picking and choosing numbers. This is called dishonesty.

If she is being dishonest about this, what else is she being dishonest about?

[mthom]

For two years Bush has defined "amnesty" (which he is of course against) as any reform that provides a path to citizenship for illegals. In his speech in Irvine today he explicitly endorsed a path to citizenship for illegals. Bush has been "dishonest" with us when it comes to illegal immigration.

[fr_freak]

In the first line of the second paragraph she uses the Pew Hispanic number. In the second line of the second paragraph she uses the number 20 million that Pew doesn't use.

She is picking and choosing numbers. This is called dishonesty.

I think you misunderstood the paragraph. Schlafly quotes the Pew Hispanic numbers for the percentage of the workforce ONLY (which they claim is less than 5%). The 20 million is the commonly-used number for the total number of illegal immigrants in this country, which would include those not working at all (children, stay-at-home moms, etc.) Now, the second line of the paragraph may seem to imply that she thinks all 20 million of them work, but it is more likely just a badly-worded sentence. In either case, calling Schlafly a liar for such a trivial thing is definitely unwarranted.

[VOATNOW1]

She is picking and choosing numbers. This is called dishonesty.

What do you call living in this country illegally? Or using false S.S. numbers? How about avoiding income taxes? Talk about picking and choosing!