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Where Have All the Conservatives Gone?
The American Conservative ^ | April 24, 2006 | W. James Antle III

Posted on 04/24/2006 12:42:34 PM PDT by ex-snook

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"Fred Barnes declared, in the pages of The Weekly Standard no less, “It’s a paleo moment in America.”"

"The Weekly Standard promoted McCain when he took a more adversarial line against the GOP establishment; his saber-rattling on Iran and talk of committing still more troops to Iraq may make him William Kristol’s favorite a second time around.

Looks like the Weekly Standard is pushing McCain to carry the 'paleo momement in America'.

Hey Barnes, no sale.

1 posted on 04/24/2006 12:42:37 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: ex-snook

I think Barnes is on multiple payrolls.."If you know what Im sayin??"...He's lost touch recently with the immigration, port debates and has been uncharacteristically confused trying to figure out what true conservatives want.


2 posted on 04/24/2006 12:45:42 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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Hynes warns, “Republicans may be in real trouble with values voters.” Traditional conservatives are also in real trouble if, after eight years of Bush, the best the GOP can do is even worse.

My thought exactly. If they nominate a pro-choice Republican, I will just pass on the presidential race.

3 posted on 04/24/2006 12:46:13 PM PDT by madprof98
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4 posted on 04/24/2006 12:47:03 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: ex-snook

The conservative movement is pretty much dead, having splintered into a number of single non-cohesive constituent issues, and is largely dissolving back into the cranky, negative, pessimistic form it took in the 1940s and '50s. Perhaps in another 20 years it will be reborn behind a new, positive leader.


5 posted on 04/24/2006 12:51:22 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: Liberty Valance

"Where Have All the Conservatives Gone?"

There sure aren't any in WASHINGTON.

Where in the world are Conservatives?


6 posted on 04/24/2006 12:51:30 PM PDT by stopem (If we need a "guest worker" we'll call........if the phone doesn't ring it's me!)
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To: stopem

George Allen would be fine with me. I respect those who feel otherwise, but abortion just isn't a strong motivating factor in my voting.


7 posted on 04/24/2006 12:57:16 PM PDT by Altair333 (Please no more 'Bush's fault' posts- the joke is incredibly old)
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"Factor in Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), who is also tepid..............."

Tepid, spineless, and not up for the game.


8 posted on 04/24/2006 12:58:32 PM PDT by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: ex-snook

Bring in another 20 million illegals and grant them the franchise before 2008.

Then hope.


9 posted on 04/24/2006 1:00:26 PM PDT by mmercier
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To: ex-snook
Hagels a donkey with fake tusks fake ears and hee haws thru his fake trunk..
And smiles like Jimmah Carter..
10 posted on 04/24/2006 1:02:37 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: ex-snook

Enforcing immigration laws and securing our borders is NOT a paleo-Conservative issue per se. But it's nice of the RINOs to try and pigeon-hole it that way.


11 posted on 04/24/2006 1:02:43 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: ex-snook

They all leave me pretty unhappy. I doubt I would vote for Guilliani. I'd rather let Hillary implement "the NY Agenda". McCain is just weird. I like his pork-bashing, which he'd done for years. But being so clueless as to push McCain-Feingold is not a big positive. Still I might rather have him than Hillary.

Getting out of the MSM-chosen candidates, Allen strikes me as a stuffed suit.

Romney is a classic Rockefeller Republican. He just put in socialized health care in Mass. Again, why not let Hillary do it?

Tancredo at least gets it on one issue, a really important issue, and isn't a follower. He was opposed to illegals before it was cool. He also seems like a real conservative, as far as his other issues.

At this point he's the only one who appeals, but realistically Representatives never are elected.

I would not vote for Condi. What has she done besides appear on Sunday talk shows? Do we have more international support for the WOT since she became SoS? No. As National Security Advisor she paved the road to Iraq, which is not a winning campaign theme.

Who is the other Congressman, Pence? I've heard good things about him on FR. But again, Reps. have a dismal record running against Governors. Of course Hillary isn't a Gov, but a former co-President.


12 posted on 04/24/2006 1:03:01 PM PDT by Jack Black
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" Tancredo at least gets it on one issue, a really important issue, and isn't a follower. He was opposed to illegals before it was cool. He also seems like a real conservative, as far as his other issues."

Kind of appears, doesn't it, that conservative issues will be buried in future campaigns.

ALL.
Thanks for comments. It does look rather bleak for conservative candidates, never mind Paleos. Looks like the 2008 GOP campaign will feature 'we are all big Government Democrats now'.

13 posted on 04/24/2006 1:17:09 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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A Senate version of Tancredo would be a welcome addition to the field ...

BZZ! Wrong! A Senate version of anything is always a bad idea.

15 posted on 04/24/2006 1:46:09 PM PDT by manwiththehands ("'Rule of law'? We don't need no stinkin' rule of law! We want AMNESTY, muchacho!")
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"BZZ! Wrong! A Senate version of anything is always a bad idea."

Agree. Executive experience has the best track record for President. The GOP lineup of conservative governors is rather bleak. Another 'Eisenhower' would be welcome.

16 posted on 04/24/2006 1:56:50 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: ex-snook; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; ...
Allen is a more conventional red-state Republican, but despite his 100 percent rating from the National Right to Life Committee, as governor of Virginia he was pro-choice in the first trimester and opposed to overturning Roe v. Wade.

ohfertheluvva...

As Governor he also issued an Executive Order preventing state funds paying for employee abortions and, most importantly championed Virginia's Parental Notification law.

17 posted on 04/24/2006 2:00:18 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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"Enforcing immigration laws and securing our borders is NOT a paleo-Conservative issue per se...."

I'm curious if you consider yourself to be a paleo-conservative. "paleo-Conservative" is a pretty new term in my lexicon. I just recently read about it in "American conservatism; an encyclopedia". I felt like I almost fit into that category, but maybe not quite. What is your take on immigration issues? Do you consider those views to be part and parcel with being a paleo-conservative? or does paleo-conservatism not address immigration? If you feel like going even further, what can you tell me about your take on "Iraq"? I found some of the assertions in the article about what various conservatives think or should think on Iraq to be pretty far off base.


18 posted on 04/24/2006 2:02:28 PM PDT by fromscratchmom
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To: stopem

I'm here and I'm stay'n!


19 posted on 04/24/2006 2:09:28 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Altair333
but abortion just isn't a strong motivating factor in my voting.

Apparently neither is opposition to gay marriage, or opposition to amnesty for illegals.
20 posted on 04/24/2006 2:09:47 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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