Bush Speech in Irvine - Live

KFMB Radio ^ | April 24, 2006 | n/a

[TigersEye]

...we are a nation of immigrants, ...

This is a falsehood. We are a nation of sons and daughters, grandsons and granddaughters and great grandsons and great granddaughters of immigrants as well as others who are unrelated to immigrants at all. (Unless you consider the Indians immigrants because their ancestors crossed the Bering land bridge 20 - 40 thousand years ago.)

[Reaganwuzthebest]

You bet, we're fighting a whole bunch of them.

[JCEccles]

So, the President's idea of a comeback tour to get his poll numbers up is to thump his immigration plan?

President Bush gets absolutely no credit from Hispanics for taking a soft line on the illegal aliens issue, and he clearly antagonizes much of his his base at the same time.

What does that mean? I think it means that he has taken the lax border/guest worker line because he personally and sincerely believes in it, not because there is political advantage in it. That shouldn't be a startling revelation; he's been that way virtually across the board since he was first inaugurated.

[ohioWfan]

janetgreen certainly lashed out at President Bush, and its not a matter of 'perception.'

She said he was at the bottom of the barrel with Jimmy Carter and LBJ.

I'm struggling how you can 'perceive' that any other way but really nasty.

[TigersEye]

I understand it's important to enforce our border. And we are.

False.

[eskimo]

My money is on President Bush..

Anyone who bets against the preservation of our republic, should lose every dime. Sorry to wish that on you but you have only your own foolishness to blame.

[mthom]

Bush claims to be against a path to citizenship for illegals.

[dagnabbit]

Keep trying to make Bush look bad.

You're right. Bush can do that all by himself.

1997 workplace immigration arrests - 17,000.
2004 workplace immigration arrests 159.

Not a typo. 159 arrests. Nationwide.

Anyone know how many lightning strikes on people there were in 2004? How does getting caught working illegally under Bush compare to the odds of getting hit by lightning?

[JustPiper]

USA Today/Gallup Poll. April 7-9, 2006

Thinking now about immigrants -- that is, people who come from other countries to live here in the United States: In your view, should immigration be kept at its present level, increased or decreased?

Present
Decreased 4/7-9/06 47%

"Do you think that illegal immigration to the United States is out of control, or not?"
.
Out of Control
4/7-9/06 81%

Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the issue of immigration?

Republicans Approve 42% Disapprove 41%
Democrats Approve 18% Disapprove 63 %
Independents Approve 20% Disapprove 55%

Should legal immigration into the United States be kept at its present level, increased, or decreased?

Republicans decreased 48%
Democrats decreased 39%
Independents decreased 47%

Regardless of how you usually vote, do you think the Republican Party or the Democratic Party is more likely to make the right decisions when it comes to dealing with immigration issues?

Republicans 60%
Democrats 70%
Independents Republicans 24% Democrats 41%

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FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. April 4-5, 2006

How serious a problem do you believe the illegal immigration situation is in the United States today? Do you see it as a very serious problem, somewhat serious, not very serious or not at all a serious problem?

Very Serious 60%

I'm going to read a list of possible concerns some people have expressed over illegal immigration. For each one, please tell me if you are very concerned, somewhat concerned, not very concerned or not at all concerned about it.

Overburden government programs and services 87%

Lead to an increase in crime Concerned 75%

Lead to an increase in terrorism Concerned 66%

Take jobs away from U.S. citizens Concerned 66%

Overall, do you think illegal immigrants provide more benefits to the nation by doing work many U.S. citizens don't want to do, or do they cost the country more because they don't pay taxes and use public services like schools and emergency rooms?

Cost More 65%

Do you think most illegal immigrants have a greater allegiance to their home countries or to the United States?

Home Countries 57%

Do you think most illegal immigrants really want to become citizens or do you think they just want to make money in the United States and go home?

Make Money 51%

Do you think it is fair or unfair to grant rights to illegal immigrants while thousands of people wait each year to come to the United States legally?

Unfair 81%

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NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll March 2006

I'm going to read you several characteristics of a possible candidate for Congress. For each one I mention, please tell me whether you would be more likely or less likely to vote for a candidate for Congress with that characteristic, or whether it would make no difference in your vote either way. A candidate who favors tighter controls on illegal immigration

More Likely 71%

In addition to improving security at our borders, Congress is considering a proposal that would impose a monetary fine on foreigners who are currently in the United States illegally and then grant them legal, temporary-worker status. Which of the following statements do you agree with more?

Should Not Grant 56%

[TigersEye]

Globalization: The Final Demise of National Security

George H.W. Bush is a member of the Trilateral Commission. Is George W. Bush?

[sinkspur]

What are you doing on a thread where real issues are being discussed?

Says a poster who shows up once a month to growl at other posters.

[JustPiper]

How many hispanics are democrat?

[ohioWfan]

Howlin, I was just thinking about that on that incredible thread about Mary McCarthy over the weekend. Not a one of these folks apparently was interested in the CIA leak and the treason of the leftists.

It DOES make you curious, doesn't it?

[ohioWfan]

It looks like you and I don't disagree on anything.

Why were you ragging on me earlier? Seriously.......why?

[JustPiper]

I used the Sessions legislation as my model today ;)

[ohioWfan]

Never mind.........I don't agree on the big business stuff, but I still don't get why you were going from post to post disagreeing with things that I didn't say.....

[Howlin]

Not enough to care..........LOL.

[JustPiper]

We ARE at war with Mexico, Fox has declared that

[eskimo]

Says a poster who shows up once a month to growl at other posters.

Hey deacon! The old ticker is about to give out, I can't afford any more than that.

[JCEccles]

Don't be paranoid, Floyd.

Someone might note just as suspiciously that you and Howlin were all over the McCarthy scandal over the weekend while defending illegal aliens and pushing for lax borders. So what?