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Congress readies broad new digital copyright bill
CNET ^ | 4/23/2006 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 04/24/2006 7:51:04 AM PDT by FewsOrange

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To: Golden Eagle

which people? the people who bought the DVD have (had) fair use rights to it, the developer can't take that away (unless they bribe congress for new laws of course).


61 posted on 04/24/2006 8:08:47 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: savedbygrace

Sure, but how many times have you actually had a problem? And if you did, that company has probably lost your business forever, or at least lost a lot? Isn't that fair enough?


62 posted on 04/24/2006 8:11:43 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

this new law isn't going to be enforced against pirates in china - its going to be enforced against americans.


63 posted on 04/24/2006 8:11:46 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: mysterio

Well according to the reports to congress, they've found illegal copies of Microsoft Flight Simulator with pictures of Osama Bin Laden and the twin towers on there. That's NOT repugnant?


64 posted on 04/24/2006 8:16:28 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: oceanview

DVD discs don't come with the physical players. That is a seperately required product, that consists of both hardware and software to operate.


65 posted on 04/24/2006 8:21:26 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

I think you're misunderstanding. The owner of the media is the media maker (MGM, Disney, Paramount, Universal, whatever), who insists they have only granted me a license to use the copyrighted material.

To be consisent with that legal theory, if the physical product on which the copyrighted material is contained becomes damaged, the media maker should provide me with a replacement at a nominal material charge (a dollar or three) if I return the damaged one. They don't. They are not even involved in such issues.

IOW, it shouldn't be a matter that depends on the charity of the retailer. It should be a requirement of the license the media makers claim to be granting. Either that, or I own the physical product with the media that is encoded on it, and should have the right to make a backup copy, as long as I don't sell the copy.


66 posted on 04/24/2006 8:23:29 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Golden Eagle

On junior's IPOD? I thought he just had too many Belle and Sebastian mp3s that he moved on there off of his cd. Well, no matter. If any one person has ever used a computer for terrorism, the law of punish the class means that we must throw your teen in jail for copying an mp3 just in case. He might be funding a terrorist by listening to that pirated Belle and Sebastian song.


67 posted on 04/24/2006 8:24:46 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: oceanview

And the US is infinitely more civilized than China is it not? Shouldn't we hold our esteemed position, rather than lowering ourselves to theirs?


68 posted on 04/24/2006 8:25:49 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: oceanview

And the US is infinitely more civilized than China is it not? Shouldn't we hold our esteemed position, rather than lowering ourselves to theirs?


69 posted on 04/24/2006 8:25:59 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Oh wait a minute. I see what you mean. Grandma's backup DVD copy of "Deep Impact" might be terrorism. In that case, I guess we better toss her in the klink, too. Unless she pays $3k to settle.


70 posted on 04/24/2006 8:27:16 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: savedbygrace
the media maker should provide me with a replacement at a nominal material charge (a dollar or three) if I return the damaged one. They don't.

As I already said, some do, especially software vendors. Take your business elsewhere if you don't like the terms. But they set the terms, as owners,, and obviously the complaints of those like yourself were factored in.

71 posted on 04/24/2006 8:33:17 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Laptop_Ron
And yet these same people can't get together to vote on putting up a fence on our borders. WTF?

Vote them out. Vote them all out on their asses.

Don't Re-elect Incumbent Politicians. They have failed and are no longer interested in looking out for the best interests of We The People.
Many of them are engaged in criminal activity on a daily basis and they conduct it with alacrity.

72 posted on 04/24/2006 8:37:56 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
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To: mysterio

Some lessons of life are more painful than others, and some learn quicker than others. Hopefully everyone is learning the RIGHT lessons, as quickly and painlessly as they can. Unfortunately for others, only the hardest way will do.


73 posted on 04/24/2006 8:38:14 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: FreePaul
Anyone think congressmen have quit taking bribes? Think again.

Anyone who thinks their elected representatives are not venal whores deserves the two-party system.

74 posted on 04/24/2006 8:39:25 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Golden Eagle

Copying a cd is not terrorism by any definition or stretch of the imagination.


75 posted on 04/24/2006 8:40:39 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Glenn

All of this technological bureaucracy isn't needed to find terrorists.
All anyone has to do is open a phone book, or go down to the local mosque.
Oh- but that's too direct- and it would work.


76 posted on 04/24/2006 8:40:48 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: FewsOrange

I'm sure glad those idiots don't have anything else to worry about.

If we could only get the RIAA involved with border security......


77 posted on 04/24/2006 8:44:46 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: mysterio

It is when terrorists do it for profit. And of course some of them do, just like other criminal enterprises. Don't want to suffer the same fate? Don't perform the same act. Simple.


78 posted on 04/24/2006 8:46:47 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Yes, lots of terrorists are copying their cds to IPOD to fund the next September 11th.

You've opened my eyes. We had better throw every teen in America in jail for committing these terrorist acts.
79 posted on 04/24/2006 8:54:04 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Your sarcasm isn't funny. Where do you think the kazaa etc servers are hosted? Here in the US? Do you really think they give you all that music for free?


80 posted on 04/24/2006 8:57:45 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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